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picture10 May 2003 @ 22:14, by Quidnovi

The Matrix, eXistenZ, The Thirteenth Floor, existential cyberspace-confusion or divine Prakriti, all of those bring on an interesting question:

If our reality is an illusion (let's suppose it is) and we can, one day, have the technological means of creating yet more (virtual) illusory worlds into that illusion (let's assume we can), one might ask, "has it happened before?" and then, "how many times?" And if so, "How many layers are there to those elaborate reality Nesting Dolls?"

Though I will most certainly be the first kid on my block to go see The Matrix Reloaded when it does come out, I still feel more profoundly attached to Dark City which explores some of the same themes in a more existential way:

"Eternal night, strange skyscrapers that morph from the ground, while the unknowing citizens get their memories changed every 24 hours. This is a surreal, bizarre and effectively paranoid sci-fi thriller that will please the neo-noir fans. Unlike most of the films of its genre, "Dark City" does not have any action sequences or endless gunfights. It is more like a dark and moody meditation. What makes us human? What is individuality? Is it simply a collection of memories that make us what we are? Will a man that has got memories of a killer continue the horrifying practice? Or is it something deeper, something you cannot change, take or label? Is that what we call soul?"----Alex Loshpe, "all-reviews.com"

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11 May 2003 @ 01:17 by shawa : Pinch me!
Am I awake ? ;-)
We can´t ever know, because what we call "reality" is projected by the brain, and we can only see the contents of the brain itself.
I live in the mountains, and I only see trees. Do you think the trees still exist when I´m not looking ?
...Maha Maya Ki... Jei!

11 May 2003 @ 02:31 by swan : Does that mean that the mess
in my studio isn't there when I am not looking and I don't have to worry about cleaning it up? or does it mean I can imagine it "clean and organized" and it will clean itself! I will experiment and let you know. *grin*  

11 May 2003 @ 03:54 by newdawn : I would like to think
I can imagine it "clean and organized" and it will clean itself!  

11 May 2003 @ 06:12 by martha : oh then
all the threads that have somehow magically migrated from the upstairs studio to the downstairs rug are illisions? Hurray, hurray, no vacuuming today!
Mark loved Dark City so much that it is in our movie collection.
And to answer Alex Loshpe, what makes us who we are- the energies we hold... IMHO

And through these energies we create connection to each other.  

11 May 2003 @ 09:34 by spiritseek : Great news...
I can now mentally do things I could only (so I thought) physically do before.  

11 May 2003 @ 09:55 by martha : this will help marie


11 May 2003 @ 10:47 by jmarc : nesting russian dolls
Very synchronistic Francis.I ran into one of these nested dolls just last week, which looked much like the ones above. Having been thinking about the question we all ask ourselves,(what's it all about?), i had a vision of the universe as a giant human being, with the planets and suns and galaxies actually being cells and atoms and us being the quarks,strange, charmed and the rest. Wouldn't it be strange if when you opened the innermost doll, the biggest was inside.Thinking of nested dolls and mobius strips is certainly food for thought eh?  

12 May 2003 @ 08:05 by invictus : Pah...
I came to NCN 16 months ago for the sole purpose of finding someone who can show me the way to Shell Beach. Francis, how do I get to Shell Beach!? Turn left at the Muse? And then... ah, but no. I think you go right at that big... I need a taco.

The best I can do these day is to rearrange my brain so as to get a bearing on my position within the doll : ) . There are plenty of nested illusions at work, to be sure. The ones I can actually see are going to take plenty of energy to overcome, so I can only worry about the ones I CAN'T see so much, you know. But yeah, one does really wonder. How would we go about "waking up" from such things? I know some people will tell you to meditate a lot, but I'm afraid I don't buy that one. *Sigh*... big question.  

12 May 2003 @ 08:10 by jstarrs : Duh...
...not seeing something is not a proof that it doesn't exist.
It would then follow that, for a blind man, nothing exists.  

12 May 2003 @ 08:21 by jazzolog : Answer Me This~~~
If I stand out in the woods and say something---and my wife is nowhere around to hear me---is what I say out there still wrong?  

12 May 2003 @ 08:34 by martha : depends on what
you are saying Jazz and if you would consider it "wrong". Any thought, in any form goes out into the universe to be picked up by the "right receivers. Maybe your wife might not want to recieve what you perceive as "wrong". She may tune you out!!!
Andy I don't meditate much at all, maybe five minutes at a time. Oh dear, but then again, i am not the proper model for you. And I have had many experiences not considered in the usual official line of what it is to be a human. (that explains my odd views on life)  

12 May 2003 @ 08:40 by jstarrs : Martha..
..you don't get it!
It DOESN'T depend on what Jazz says - ANYTHING he says anywhere is wrong for his dearly beloved (correct me if I'm wrong, duh, Richard...)  

12 May 2003 @ 08:58 by swan : Jeff,
are women giving you a hard time again ;-(, Dr....Nurse...a pill for this one please. give him one of those "woman are lovely creatures" pills...yes..the pink one.  

12 May 2003 @ 10:00 by martha : you see starry
just another example of the complexities of a woman's mind. My, my, the man ripples easily sometimes. How thoughtful of swan to have the correct pill. Maybe she is Nurse Swanetta in disguise.  

12 May 2003 @ 11:15 by jazzolog : Borderline Case
Jeff is right, Martha, in his analysis of my dearly beloved. However, you are right in that she does tune me out from time to time. Oh all right, lots of the time! If I were you, Dr. Borders---and incidentally I am...  

12 May 2003 @ 12:27 by martha : tuned into me are you?
LOL...Which life?

***************** And some giggles***************

Will Rogers, who died in a plane crash with Wylie Post in 1935, was probably the greatest political sage this country has ever known. Enjoy the following quotes----

1. Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco.

2. Never kick a cow chip on a hot day.

3. There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman...neither works.

4. Never miss a good chance to shut up.

5. Always drink upstream from the herd.

6. If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

7. The quickest way to double your money is to fold it and put it back in your pocket.

8. There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.

9. Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.

10. If you're riding' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there.

11. Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier'n puttin' it back.

12. AND FINALLY: After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him... The moral When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.


First, Eventually you will reach a point when you stop lying about your age and start bragging about it.

Second, The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.

Third, Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know "why" I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved.

Fourth, When you are dissatisfied and would like to go back to youth, think of Algebra.

Fifth, You know you are getting old when every thing either dries up or leaks.

Sixth, I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top.

Seventh, One of the many things no one tells you about aging is that it is such a nice change from being young.

Eighth, One must wait until evening to see how splendid the day has been.

Ninth, Being young is beautiful, but being old is comfortable.

Tenth, Long ago when men cursed and beat the ground with sticks, it was called witchcraft. Today it's called golf.

And finally, If you don't learn to laugh at trouble, you won't have anything to laugh at when you are old.  

12 May 2003 @ 20:11 by martha : humor and truth, truth and humor
A few pointers from above that do stand out.

3. There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman...neither works. TRUE

8. There are three kinds of men:
The ones that learn by reading.
The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence.
I assume this is TRUE also.

6. If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. TRUE also and rarely followed on NCN. (old style thinking)  

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