Finny's News and Views.: Mike Moore "You Are Either With Us, Or You Are Fired"    
 Mike Moore "You Are Either With Us, Or You Are Fired"19 comments
1 Oct 2002 @ 14:44, by John Finn


Dear Friends,

I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know!

You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following:

1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%.

2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion.

3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office.

4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001.

5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick.

6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush.

THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war.

But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that!

Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats.

I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society.

What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party.

OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain.

In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to please sign the petition I have posted here ([link]) and on my website ( informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. I guarantee your voice will be heard loud and clear.

Go to [link] and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired." Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004.

Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice.

Yours, Michael Moore

P.S. The wonderful, heartfelt letters sent to me regarding my mom's passing continue to fill my mailbox from so many of you. Thank you very much -- you don't know what it has meant to me. I am sorry I have not been able to be very active or public in the past couple of months, so please accept my apologies and my thanks for your understanding. Next week, I have to get back to work -- it is time for my film to bust its way into theaters across America. I will tell you all about it next Monday...

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1 Oct 2002 @ 16:06 by invictus : Well...
I signed that, for whatever it's worth. I saw Moore speak in Boulder once. He's quite good. Thanks Finny.  

1 Oct 2002 @ 21:16 by vaxen : Corporate...
Fascism and the one party system. And what good will signing YAP do Finney? Will it make the ones' who sign it 'feel' better? They'd do well to stop voting and band together in small gorilla units of five men/women and link up for the war that's bound to come. But we do'nt have a Mount Weather, now, do we?

Corporate Fascism has long been dinking around the muck in Washington D.C. (District of Criminals) There is a solution but, as Adolph Hitler pointed out in Chapter six of 'Mein Kampf' 'they forget so easily and quickly.'

So learn about the C2 system, inside and out, and get aboard the C4IFTW...for no amount of dumbed down 'citizenry' still believing in 'democracy' (Mob Rule) are going to do a thing to change the status quo. Too much 'SOft Weaponry' and glitzery abounds in their well fed glutted lives for them to care a wit about the man in the street till it's too late and the man in the street rises up and slits thir vapid souls to kingdom come. TaTa mon Finn bro...

Thank you for sharing that Vax. I was more interested in the content than the petition. I think most petitions are a waste of time especially email ones. I generally sign the ones in the real world though, probably does bugger all, but then no harn trying. Finny  

2 Oct 2002 @ 00:27 by jstarrs : Did his latest film...
...'Bowling At Colombine', ever get released in the states? It's out here now & in Toulouse, at the indie cinema, there's an open debate around the film.
Obne extract shows him opening a bank account where they give you a rifle as a welcoming gift. In the film he's talking to the bank manager, handling the gun and saying he just opened the account to get the gun!
I think he's doing good work...  

2 Oct 2002 @ 01:44 by steve_rod : Mike Moore

Symptoms of Inner Peace

Be on the lookout for symptoms of inner peace. The hearts of a great many have already been exposed to inner peace and it is possible that people everywhere could come down with it in epidemic proportions. This could pose a serious threat to what has, until now, been a fairly stable condition of conflict in the world.


A tendency to think and act spontaneouslv rather than on fears based on past experiences.
An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment
A loss of interest in judging people
A loss of interest in judging self
A loss of interest in interpreting the actions of others
A loss of interest in conflict
A loss of the ability to worry (This is a very serious symptom.)
Frequent overwhelming episodes of appreciation
Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature
Frequent attacks of smiling
An increasing tendency to let things happen rather than trying to make them happen
An increasing susceptibility to the love extended by others as well as the uncontrollable urge to extend it.
W A R N I N G . If you have some or all of the above symptoms, please be advised that your condition of inner peace may be so far advanced as to be incurable. If you are exposed to anyone exhibiting these symptoms, remain exposed only at your own risk  

2 Oct 2002 @ 02:23 by jazzolog : Model A
I think most folks know Moore is from Lansing, Michigan, and watched his family and home town go down before corporate management of that population. The fire that started in him hasn't dimmed even slightly in the 20 years since he made the brilliant documentary Roger and Me. His new film is getting started over here, but may meet much resistance given the election "season." Thank you Finny, for putting this up. I hadn't seen it.  

24 Mar 2003 @ 18:16 by spiritseek : Good articles Finney
Keep up the good work of posting informative articles.  

24 Mar 2003 @ 19:24 by b : triple A's-anti American Americans
Then we have some non Americans who don't like us either. Michael Moore, a headline chasing militant liberal. We(USA)fight a different kind of war then any which came before. People who would yell STOP! and destroy have nothing to replace that which they would kill. People who say they advocate peace and in doing that they trash cars, stores and make civil disturbances have bad manners.  

25 Mar 2003 @ 06:31 by invictus : Yes Bee...
They do have bad manners. I agree. It's an important point to make, so thanks for bringing it up. They need to realize that you can't bring about peace through violence. Peace, and I dare say any REAL positive change, will only come about when we respect our fellow human beings, regardless of how much we think we have to hold against them. Violence just creates hatred, no matter how much anyone thinks they are justified in removing so-and-so from the face of the Earth (or putting a brick through so-and-so's windshield at a peace rally). In the end, violence just boils down to killing people with families, or to instilling the same fear in other people that we dread feeling in our own minds. People with whom we have much in common. It is very hypocritical of the peace demonstrators to commit acts of violence in the name of peace. In fact, it is always hypocritical to commit acts of violence in the name of peace.  

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