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9 comments11 Jan 2002 @ 19:20 by istvan : More ... nore
Glad to see your Website. Your obsevations are brilliant and seem so true.
12 Jan 2002 @ 00:04 by mmmark : Intelligence
Finny, you have shown once again that the search for truth is rewarded in consciousness.
12 Jan 2002 @ 00:40 by kay : I wrote a lengthy response and lost the
..........internet connection without knowing it. So when I went to post, everything dumped. I am in process of going through a nine month initiation process of the Magdelene Priestess. Part of our personal work is our sexual story. It is deep soul searching. Three months into my relationship with Wayne, we learn that he has prostrate cancer. This was very much a low blow to the both of us. Wayne was the most attentive lover that I have ever known in my life and it was devastating to lose that connection until I was able to move out of the sterotype and into the realm of soul. Our relationship has moved from sexual, sensual and head, heart into another dimension. The level of soul that can incorporate all the needs into a bigger picture.In order to get needs met we have had to experiment with the unconventional. Today we go on with the flow of our lives. He still works, we still have dinner parties and hold meditation group gatherings, but the love that flows through and around us is hard to miss because the soul connection is strong. But so is sensuality. There is a book that helped me see some of the Archetype.
It is Women of the Light: The new Sacred Prostitute. Editied by Kenneth Ray Stubbs, Ph.D.
It is the stories of nine women. Women of the night - women of the light: The sacred prostitute, the temple Priestess, the sexual healer. The embodiement of the Archetypal Goddess. Who is she today? Without a continuing lineage, without a temple, the contempory sacred prostitue has many faces. today she is:
The porn Star- Juliet Carr, The Sex Surrogate- Barbara Roberts, The meditation Teacher- Jwala, The group Sex Hostess, Shell Freye, The artist, Betty Dodson, The Masseuse- Carolyn Elderberry, The call Girl- Carol Queen, The Fire Woman- Stephanie Rainbow Lightening Elk, The nurse- Kathryn.
The book concludes with a well written piece: From Sexual Stereotype to Archetype. There is a good resourse Appendices.
Today I often refer to Wayne as my Cosmic Gift. He is. We have used our sexual energy to help each of us heal and when we become sexually active again in the traditional sense we will have had one huge attitude adjustment. We will be much more aware of our own needs and each others because we are aware now and we are meeting needs in creative flowing ways that include the emotions, the physical, the spiritual and the psyche. The energy that we use and work with is healing us of a dis-ease that not everyone is able to overcome. Getting real is a starting point.
12 Jan 2002 @ 16:51 by sharie : The Dual Shadows of Archetype & Culture
Thank you Finny for initiating this discussion. Thank you Kay for your honest and insightful sharing. I'd been looking at our whole culture - capitalism, inequality among human beings, poverty (economically and morally), mass murder by the corporations - and I'd been looking at the pedophiles, the rapists, the womanizers, the bar-hoppers, the people *using* other human beings, the complete disregard for the well-being of one another, and I'd been thinking about the divorce rate - I think it's up to 60% now. I appreciate the connections you make about how our love relationships trigger the shadow side of our sexual archetype. I just want to add that to really understand what's going on, we need to look at the capitalist culture that we're enmeshed in. The Capitalist value system puts personal profit and self-aggrandizement first and foremost. If we lived in a cooperative community, rather than a competitive rat race, where everyone's out to get everyone else's money and assets, I think our need for marriage and commitment would dwindle, and people would choose mates for entirely different reasons - perhaps more soulful and sensual, more fulfilling and more caring. Then perhaps people would stay in committed relationships longer. I'd love us to talk more about the shadow side of our sexuality and why we stick out our buttons just to have them get pushed, I just felt I needed to add this other dimension of our capitalist culture in order for us to more fully understand the dynamics. Thank you all so much for your comments.
12 Jan 2002 @ 17:32 by finny : The saint and Slut
Points well made sharie. It doesn't all happen in a vacuum. The consumerist, materialist, image ridden environment supports and encourages us to stay unconscious and or on the surface.
13 Jan 2002 @ 10:47 by istvan : "From sex to suprconsciousness"
"When conditioned selves meet, they bring all the politics os status,social warfare, and wretched work-lives With them. All this is to be dissolved in one breef moment of unconsciois orgasmic relief. This itself is a joke. Simple genitel release was never meant to compensate for souch a false existence yet this is the attempted solution of compensation for millions of Homo sapiens. After che act (of love or sexuality) there may be a momentary relaxation, but it is the the self that is reinforced. The mini-death of the self in the "act" was uncinscious. It goes Unrealised that it is this death that is the core of the transforming function. The self does not want to remain aware if it's death, so the moment is brief and unconscious and filled with momentary pleasure. While this sel-pleasure dualism also beings pain,the absence of self brings Joy, with no opposing term. The immediate apperception of this is what is sought behind all the substitute programs or compensations of live or sex. Being this Joy is the natural Alchemical outcome of of transformed sexual energy in this context. If it were possible to bring attention into the unconsciousness of this game, a new being other than the unconscious self might emerge."From the book:TRANSCENDENCE By:M.F.Taylor
***What he is saying shortly That the brief period of orgasm is but an opportunity, a glimpse into a state of delight of what it is to be without the ego. Where the ego is, there is no orgasm/delight.
13 Jan 2002 @ 14:37 by bushman : Hmm
Well ok, this story I found, may be of intrest to this discusion. Seems that syncronicity abounds these days, hey, finny, lol, when you start something like this, know that it will go global. :}
15 Jan 2002 @ 13:53 by sharie : Orgasmic Opportunities
Sexuality is an aspect of our Self, an intense energy that propels us and motivates us to be the divinity of our self - our rapture - awakening us to our power, bliss, and love. Our sexuality communicates who we are.
16 Jan 2002 @ 20:59 by peazritr : ::the problem is the pathologies pov::
welcome finny to the newciv net! i like how you say: "By just understanding our sexual behaviours and/or 'dysfuctions' with the interpretations provided by mainstream psychology, I believe we run the risk of limiting ourselves to mere pathologies." i too believe we are at risk & overburdened by the mainstream pathological point of view & not just in terms of our sexuality.
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