|New Civilization News: J.A.I.L. or Bailout?|
Category: Economics, Financing, Banking
22 comments14 Nov 2008 @ 02:33 by gordon @188.8.131.52 : Like it matters......
......but according to this, it's already even more. We're being laughed at..... and maybe rightly so..... as the 'people' are bent over, taking it from behind, all loaded up on Prozac, drool running down their chins.....
Yes, $3.45 trillion has already been spent, as Bailoutsleuth.com details:
$2T Emergency Fed Loans (the ones the Fed won't discuss, as detailed here)
$700B TARP (designed to buy bad debt, the fund is rapidly transforming as we'll discuss in an upcoming segment)
$300B Hope Now (the government's year-old attempt at mortgage workouts)
$140B Tax Breaks for Banks (WaPo has the details)
$110B: AIG (with it's new deal this week, the big insurer got $40B of TARP money, plus $110B in other relief)
Tallying up the "true" cost of the bailout is difficult, and won't be known for months if not years. But considering $3.5 trillion is about 25% of the U.S. economy ($13.8 trillion in 2007) and the U.S. deficit may hit $1 trillion in fiscal 2009, hyperinflation and/or sharply higher interest rates seem likely outcomes down the road.
14 Nov 2008 @ 05:52 by vaxen : The problem...
is a traitorous Congress, that established the FED in 1913, and the FEDERAL RESERVE system which is fraud plain and simple but as noted this allows those 'elite' one worlders who are desirous of complet control over everything and everyone an almost total iron fist over the many slaves dependent on this totally corrupt and corrupting 'financial' system. Slavery in a nutshell. The Federal Reserve, Congress, et al, must go! Whatever it takes to get rid of these traitors must happen...
Like quality of life does matter and for a whole world to be enslaved by just a few who enslave the many via lies and deceit to fiddle whilst Rome burns is wrong and they will get their just recompense at the end of a rope or with a bullet to the back of their pudgy wretched heads. The recent comedy of Barack Obama should warn people that far worse than Bush is on it's way. Will they listen and heed the writing on the wall? No! They'll expect those of us who want nothing to do with this wretched system to toe the line like they do in true 'Democratic' fasion. I hear the drums of silent warfare calling for their blood. The jungle thirsts and will extract it's just due...
14 Nov 2008 @ 06:12 by vaxen : Bait & Switch
"Obama cannot stop this orgy of lawlessness because it has become endemic to this system without order. In fact the congress has become useless in the face of these government-by-Executive- decrees, supported by near total apathy from the public that is being stripped and hijacked in broad daylight. While the thieves squabble among themselves, this nation sinks beneath the rising tides of red-ink and stolen promises that shall leave Americans destitute by the time of Obama's ordination. These creatures will not stop until we demand an end to all of this. At the very least we have to stop them from just making it all up as they go along! If we don't act now - then the global-markets will crash and that dreaded worldwide Depression shall become an indisputable fact." - Jim Kirwan
14 Nov 2008 @ 20:44 by a-d : This is also
quite interseting , me thinks, http://prudentinvestor.blogspot.com/2008/11/bloomberg-picks-fight-with-federal.html ... just to "prove" that people really are starting to make noise about this whole "money" (read: SLAVERY) thing.
I don't believe for a moment at any of the statements Brian Wilson has stated here. NOT AT ALL! I think Humanity is motivated by their LOVE FOR LIFE DESPITE ALL the Efforts made by the CROOKS and CROOKS ALONE!!!... for Humanity to GIVE UP THAT LOVE, hence their LIFE, TO the CROOKS due to UTTER DESPAIR orchestrated BY these CROOKS!!!
A Clinical Analysis, like B.Wilson's here (in your comment here above) , where NO higher /more spiritual/ Aspects are seen but the nonsense, fabrications and orchestrations of meyhem and chaos and confusion, that the Crook's always create on /for our Socio-political Scene; "Ideology This", "Ideology That" ad nauseum. But the Crooks will not draw the longest straw any more. Those times are over! LIFE ALWAYS HAS THE LAST SAY --and LAUGH -as it were!
14 Nov 2008 @ 22:08 by vaxen : Brian...
is being satyrical, A-d! You really must begin to think in English. SOmetimes, I feel, you miss what is being said...the puns, the 'hidden' stuff. The spaces between the letters. Just an observation not a 'put down' so please don't get offended or angry. Take it all with a pinch of salt. You'll live longer and smile more. We own this world and it's games so which players are yours? Or do you Pan Determine all things in your verse? I tend to be Pan Deterministic and I've a slew of players you wouldn't dream of. Sarkozy of France, for example... ;) Now eat a bannana and fly, monkey girl! ;) heh, heh...
14 Nov 2008 @ 22:13 by vaxen : Heh, heh...
The below from A-d's link above:
For those of you concerned about the Fed's risky behavior, its ballooning balance sheet, and its acceptance of dodgy collateral, well you may be about to see whether the American democracy can allow this unchecked power to continue without oversight. Bloomberg News has sued the Federal Reserve to force them to reveal what kind of collateral they are accepting in loaning out trillions of dollars to U.S. banks.
The Federal Reserve, a quasi-government body (which strictly speaking is a private corporation in that it is owned by member banks), has been accepting assets of ever more dubious quality in a bid to liquify the U.S. banking system. Moreover, their efforts should be considered highly inflationary and a long-term threat to the value of the U.S. dollar and to the American economy.
The Fed balance sheet is expected to balloon to $3 trillion by the end of the year, up from $900 billion in August -- a rise in the Fed’s balance sheet from 6% of GDP to more than 20% of GDP in four months. In Japan, which was known for quantitative easing during its own deflationary crisis, the central bank’s balance sheet rose progressively from 9% of GDP to 29% of GDP. But this was over ten years from 1994 to 2004. At the current pace, the Fed might do in six months what it took ten years to do in Japan. Amazing.
Thanks A-d. Sweet! But, the goons are still there. The IRS henchmen work for the Fed Res you know? ;)
15 Nov 2008 @ 01:48 by a-d : Yeahhh, they are there
but they are being challenged ever more every day Someone from a new direction, pops up, making the Bad Guys uncomfortable with their questions, that the Bad Boys can't --or don't want to --answer! and that already is doing a world of difference/good!
Now, for Things to really start to change, We The People need to get more together in a Common Cause!....." The only outcome is a revolt. " the ONLY Thing that will brake down the remaining IRON CURTAINS, keeping the last bit of Ugly Truth away from being known and that we need in order for Everyday Man not to have be scared to death "what will happen" when un-employed with no "money" his "bills & "mortgages" and the Crook's Henchmen knocking on his door. Whadddzzhe supposed to say, and how to react, act???
Hmmmm.... Yeah... maybe you're right, I do NOT see anything satirical/ sarcastic in B.W.'s writing... I do not either see it as English vs another lingo" CONCEPTS are the same in all languages!... so if I don't understand sarcasm or satirical in English, then I don't grasp it any better in Swedish, got it? Glad you say that though...just today I was thinking of this very subject... I LOOOOVE SATIRE and sarcasms... maybe too much! Well... We have to just keep an eye on this Q;A-d's ability to understand S & S in this --or that lingo. : ) Sometimes, I'm sure, I miss the Punch... especially in moments when I my self am not the Delivery Man! *!* ... :)...
15 Nov 2008 @ 14:49 by ashanti : Thanks
for the article. Spells it out, nuts and bolts. All that will not "change". Only people can change. People will wake up when the effects of the theft hit in real terms.
15 Nov 2008 @ 18:48 by vaxen : Nah...
I don't think they will. Or should I say we? They is we and I'm fast asleep. The years go by and nothing appears to change at all. People over all seem to love the glitz of fascism, kings, queens, trumpets, Caligulas and the whole nine yards of the dream.
Seconds turn into minutes turn into hours turn into days turn into weeks turn into months turn into years turn into decades and lifetimes all lived in a fantasmagorical moment.
U0, playing field. U1 My Universe, U2 Your universe, U3 Our Universe. Megaverses, Metaverses, Paraverses, verses, words, numbers, lines, periods, dots at the end of a poem which was yesterdays sibilance and expression and tomorrow nights infinite dream.
Ashanti I no longer be-lieve. Not by my leave do 'they' do this. They are pawns in our game luv. You know that. Now what would best illustrate attitudes altitude for today, this very windy day? Christmas we will to be here in six friggin weeks, then the end of another year (Gregorian Calendrical Lies), and the beginning of Obamas' reign as? The joker.
Lots of civilian suits against that regime. No birth certificate which can be said to be legitimate, supports Arab terrorists and African ones too, calls himself a mutt... Ooooo! A lackey in the White House... so? ;)
The world spins on and so do we. Luv ya lady Ashanti and it is darned good to know you're still running your game. Good on ya and happy day...
It's all a memory and America, et al, passed out of existance billions of years ago... Soon we'll wake up at the auditing table, from out our reveries, and walk out the door forgetting all along that we are OT...
All aboard, the Enchanter sails at dawn.
18 Nov 2008 @ 03:37 by vaxen : Oh boy!
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
"Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” That is a direct admission Barack Obama was a British citizen "at birth".
WHAT CONGRESS & THE MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU
November 17, 2008
© 2008 - http://NewsWithViews.com/
"Would you rather have one tyrant 3,000 miles away or 3,000 tyrants one mile away?" Mel Gibson as Benjamin Martin, The Patriot
This is the latest on the Obama citizenship crisis and then some research resources for you on major issues.
In my last column, Part II, was devoted to the growing crisis over Barack Hussein Obama refusing to prove he is a natural born citizen; see here http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd414.htm . You can get involved with the effort to contact electoral college delegates to stop their vote on December 15, 2008 by clicking here http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd414.htm ; those links are identified as such.
2 Dec 2008 @ 05:10 by dan1 : The People's Role in J.A.I.L. ?
Can J.A.I.L. be entered and operated by as many True Citizens as will become participants? Or is it another "elite" operated program for The many?
Can this be a True People's Movement? An action committed by The Many? I have seen no mention of this idea from Ron Paul, the Constitutionalists or Republic Patriots. Could it be that they are not aware of this idea...J.A.I.L.?
2 Dec 2008 @ 21:07 by dan1 : Joined The J.A.I.L. Yahoo Group...
... and am in the process of studying this movement...to see if We The People really have a collective role to play in it.
So far, I see a potential for a complete full circle to be formed regarding Our Society and Government. A few other elements might have to be added that further organize The American People, but I like this part of it so far.
2 Dec 2008 @ 21:36 by vaxen : Incidentally...
the term 'We The People' has been copyrighted, along with many other, by the Corporate entity, fiat government, calling itself the United States, and the united States of America, and the USA, U.S.A, US etc., therefore when you use the term "We The People" you are, unkowingly, siding with the fiat government which is actually run out London England so...
It pays to be extremely wary where legal words and fictions are concerned so as to not unknowingly sign your unalienable (Unto which a LIEN cannot be attatched and not the same as in-a-LIEN-able) rights away. See ya there dan1. Good to see you again and thanks for the comments. Gonna become a J.A.I.L.or?
6 Dec 2008 @ 20:22 by dan1 : We The People
Thank you Mr. Var, for the heads up about another tyrannical act of the "Corporate Entity". I was not aware that they have copyrighted Our Name.
The "Corporate Entity" has and never will have the right to copyright the term "We The People". This is an abuse of the copyright process. We The People must deny the corporate entity that power. That term by its very nature and by its meaning is reserved for the People Of America, whether they be orgainized as Federal Government or as Republic. "We The People" is NOT for corporate use. We The People can be used by OUR government only if We say so. We have agreed to this by accepting the Constitution of the United States Of America as the Basic Law Of The Land, but it is Our Right to change this if We need to. If the United States Of America diminishes in power or ceases to be, We The People Of whatever will retain Our right and will to be called WHAT WE ARE!
I value being a part of We The People. I am powerless without We The People. I hope more citizens, or Individuals come to realize this and act accordingly. As usual my attitude about this is counter to an evil reality that needs to be corrected.
Yes Mr. Var, I am planning to help J.A.I.L. I am limited and spread thin, but I will do what I can.
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