|New Civilization News: Catastrophe Is Coming|
Category: Environment, Ecology
37 comments18 Dec 2007 @ 09:20 by vaxen : Heh, heh...
Thanks jazzo for contributing to the New World Orders version of our future. Right along with Agenda 21. You might take a peek at the 'Georgia Guidestones (Donated by L. Ron Hubbard, though that fact is little known)' and see just how many people are going to live through the holocausted Earth's changes being 'induced,' not by the general populace, as the Global Warming hoax crowd would have it, but by a few insane maniacs who think the Earth belongs to them.
You might fall for the FUD and exaust your energies therby but I suggest you look deeper into the matter. Study, for instance, the Perez Diaspora and it's 'timeline' to see who is behind the destruction of planet Earth.
Oh, you won't listen, you'll go along with the current agenda.
Meanwhile take a look at who is running SAIC and maybe even check out who is dumping all the aluminum in the atmo-sphere as well as what about all the radiation (know what it does?) that has been dumped into our atmosphere by the well meaning pundits of war since Nagasaki and Hiroshima! And the 'mind controlled' masses?
Oh, forget about the Lemmings...they are too stupid and we just don't want them around.
There is tons more I could add but shan't as it is getting near sunrise here and I must get back to my eternal rest before the Sunna that is warming our globe winks it's eye at me in jest.
But I will take a pot shot here and there from my stealthy perch deep in the guts of the Corp! That is, if you don't mind.
Hiranyagharba has it all...
Hillary, Obama or Edwards? Edwards beat all the GOP whilst Hillary and Obama? Ah yes doesn't Plutocratic politicking just grab you by those unmentionables? Great Balls of Fire!
18 Dec 2007 @ 18:17 by mortimer : Scared stiff?
I am not scared but, I am very concerned.
Sounds like good work Jazzo. I suggest removing the fear base and you’ll deliver better results. If people try to create change from a place of fear it often brings what is feared. Global warming maybe arguable but global imbalance as a whole is not. It is no longer about fear. A ligament concern carries weight and come 2008 global balance might not slide aside anymore.
18 Dec 2007 @ 19:33 by vaxen : Well...
don't forget the wonder bunnies making all the 'profit' who juggle worlds and balance the sheets...Central Banking anyone?
18 Dec 2007 @ 20:18 by jerryvest : Please let Dana know that I
really appreciated her article and her passion for taking personal responsibility and for her compassion for our planet as it relates to this pending catastrophe. I think it is smart to be prepared for the worst possible scenario and work toward conservation of energy and natural resources. We will always have doubters who don't value science, especially on this subject, but, rather, trust their intuition; religious beliefs; and/or support corporate greed over common interests. There are always two sides to every story until the truth is discovered. I wonder what it will take for the doubters and cynics to accept reality?
19 Dec 2007 @ 03:25 by vaxen : Ho, ho!
Especially when your "science" is pseudo science feeding the deep pockets of the 'elite' who are bringin into being the U.N Agenda 21! There is a whole opposition science that is actually very real science (here you may define science according to its' real definition!) that doesn't deny what is happening in the Solar system, and beyond, and also knows the effects that blowing tons and tons of fissionable materials have on the planet and the atmosphere! Not to mention "Weather wars!" And if you think I'm joking about 'ful;l spectrum dominance' and Military "SCIENCE" then read the friggin reports put out by various "WAR" colleges and by various "WAR" based scientists...like the ones creating the global warming effect in the mionds of the sheeple!
Yes, there will always be doubters in pseudo science who know the propaganda power of a 'controlled (By the Military Industrial Complex, which includes 'EDUCATION!')
Again...read the Georgia Guidestones. What you're witnessing is the death of 'Nation States!' And the birthing pangs of One World Order. It doesn't matter what governmental system, democracy or republic, or whatever, is in place for Fascism is not a government system! FOllow the money trail and prepare for economic catastrophe (Kata Strophe) in 2008. Or don't.
19 Dec 2007 @ 03:25 by vaxen : Para Spookie...
SPOOK RADIO: GHOSTWRITERS IN THE SKY:
Eavesdropping on the Ether
21st Century Electronic Voice Phenomena & Instrumental Transcommunication
By Iona Miller 4/2007
"We don't die," was the message that first got me interested in this, in 1966 ~kt
Can esoteric realms reach us through our own growing arsenal of telecommunications and
recording devices? And, if so, WHO are they, are their efforts coordinated, and WHAT do they
say? If THEY are talking, who is listening?
Eavesdropping on the Ether
Talk to the Dead, the Bornless, the Discarnate, Transdimensionals, Ultraterrestrials,
Extraterrestrials? Who's listening? Insiders say, governments and intelligence agents, for
starters. Yes, Virginia, spooks chase spooks, with Radical EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena).
Those engaged in this unique twist on electronic surveillance say, “the future ain’t what it
used to be.”
Professional "futurist" consulting institutions like RAND, SRI, MRU, and The Club of Rome and
their military equivalents engage in long-range planning, systematic trend watching, scenario
development, and visioning for military, government, and private institutions and
corporations. And what do they report? A transformative worldview that “we're all in it
together” is the foundation of mutually-assured survival rather than the deadly alternative.
19 Dec 2007 @ 03:44 by freo7 : Global Warming...
AND... What the all paid off USA media ISN'T TELLING YOU !
Is "all this Ascension stuff" for real, or is it just the imbecile fantasy of people deeply divorced from reality? Here is what the media never tells you, at least not all at once. We all know that the Earth is experiencing global warming and other changes, whether the petroleum giants like it or not. Just read the headlines. What we may NOT know is the following:
The Sun's magnetic field is over 230 percent stronger now than it was at the beginning of the 1900s, and its overall energetic activity has increased, creating a frenzy of activity that continues to embarrass NASA's official predictions.
Venus is now glowing in the dark, as is Jupiter's moon Io.
In the last 30 years, Earth's icecaps have thinned out by as much as 40 percent. Quite inexplicably, just since 1997 the structure of the Earth has shifted from being slightly more egg-shaped, or elongated at the poles, to more pumpkin - shaped, or flattened at the poles. No one at NASA has even bothered to try to explain this yet. Link to full article at NASA.
The icecaps of Mars noticeably melted just within one year, causing 50-percent changes in surface features. Atmospheric density had risen by 200 percent above previous observations as of 1997.
Jupiter has become so highly energized that it is now surrounded by a visibly glowing donut tube of energy in the path of the moon Io. The size of Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled since 1992.
Saturn's polar regions have been noticeably brightening, and its magnetic field strength increasing.
According to NASA's Voyager II space probe, Uranus and Neptune both appear to have had recent magnetic pole shifts - 60 degrees for Uranus and 50 for Neptune.
Neptune has become 40 percent brighter in infrared since 1996, and is fully 100-percent brighter in certain areas. Also, Neptune's moon Triton has had a "very large percentage increase" in atmospheric pressure and temperature, comparable to a 22-degree Fahrenheit increase on Earth.
As of September 2002, Pluto has experienced a 300-percent increase in its atmospheric pressure in the last 14 years, while also becoming noticeably darker in color.
Everything you have just read is referenced from mainstream media sources, and the full list of relevant links can be found within chapter eight of Divine Cosmos.. The whole key to mass media control is: **to ensure that these facts are never seen all at the same time**. It becomes "all too weird" once we add in the ever-increasingly stressful socio-political events on Earth, such as a "perpetual war against terrorism," with the smirking Bush as Wild West Messiah In-Chief playing "Bring 'em On for Armageddon," along with the fulfillment of many other ancient prophecies, including those of the Judeo-Christian Bible.
At http://www.DivineCosmos.com , we have freely published a compelling scientific case for there being a Convergence, Shift of the Ages, dimensional shift or Ascension now underway. When this solar-system-wide process is complete, estimated to be within the timeframe of 2010-2013, we can expect an "Omega Point" event that is literally "beyond our wildest dreams." The changes in the Solar System are only the more obvious and physical result of these changes, where the energy of consciousness itself is being upgraded, causing mass evolution to occur.
19 Dec 2007 @ 09:35 by vaxen : Yahu!
Thanks freo7 for that. And jaazo I'm sorry about the repetition. I'll have to edit it and fill in the blanks with something relevant.
We can express our relevant contemporary approach as Sacred Activism. Our true work remains
to know ourselves and express that from the deepest levels outward in practice and
compassionate service. We can identify, analyze and neutralize adversarial energies with
reclaimed courageous voices. If we see the Big Picture, we can link information to action,
like 2020 Vision.
We must draw the line at our hearts, bending back toward soul and spirit, becoming more fully
human. Self-defeating and self-fulfilling prophecies can shape the future or prevent it from
happening. We have to claim our future and humanity by developing by consolidating (physical,
emotional, mental and spiritual) human survival technologies.
Sacred Activism is service in motion. If you have a value, stand up for it. Let's build
better humans from the primordial field upwards. There is only one race, and it's the human
race and we are losing it. Our culture must be defined by our hearts not by banks, oil,
academia, media, corporations, drug companies or poor government.
For our species to survive, we have to begin at the primal foundation of our Being, creating
and allowing more compassionate human beings who recognize that the only sustainability
possible for ourselves is to realize at the deepest level that WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER. And
any delusion that creates separation, including exploitation, prejudice and degradation,
manifests loss of opportunities for us all to realize our spiritual genius. This has been the
stumbling block for the race of mankind as a dynamic whole.
We are indeed, ONE
19 Dec 2007 @ 10:14 by jazzolog : Thanks Jerry & Good Luck Libertarians
Dana is a member of NCN but her brief interest in participating was brought quickly to a screeching halt upon acquaintance with the number of ranters in here. I've copied both your compliment and an example of Vaxen to her. We'll see what she says.
I've been thinking a good deal about Dubai over the last several hours, and the ecological obscenity that it is. What kind of carbon footprint does an indoor ski resort in the desert produce? If the warming rises the sea level, what of those Palm Islands and the world's tallest building---a hotel room at $28,000 a night? Are these the wicked rich who are hoaxing us 80% to be rubbed out.
Think of the parties Halliburton and Cheney will throw for Georgie when he visits next month! Do they have a plan to abandon the towers when the waters rise? Or will the Palm Islands unfold into dikes?
19 Dec 2007 @ 13:39 by jerryvest : Yes, it is really remarkable how
Bush-Cheney and the other brave cynics believe they have the truth in their minds,yet find very little in their heart for our planet and humankind when presenting such issues that are so important to our planet. They are as pompous as the towers on the Palm Islands of Dubai you portray, for sure. Thanks, Richard and Dana. Like your partner and several other bright persons who are no longer here, I have also considered dropping out of this website for similar reasons. However, I am hoping that I can influence some change in attitudes, actions and beliefs with those who are open and wish to discuss issues that are relevant to our survival and to our health and wellbeing. Seems that there is usually a pack mentality with the zealots that make discussion and interaction not very attractive for me. I enjoy interacting on the "Huffington Post" as there seems to be a more common interest by participants in developing and working for and with a new civilization.
19 Dec 2007 @ 16:10 by jazzolog : Courtesy To And Respect For All
That is your trademark Jerry, and we love you for it. Simple hospitality seems to me the very basis of human interaction---unless of course one has decided to be at war all the time. That also can be the basis of all human interaction. We do always have the choice.
19 Dec 2007 @ 16:24 by athedge : The farmer and the cowhand...
This thread of comments reminds me of the lyric from "Oklahoma!" -- Oh, the farmer and the cowhand should be friends.... Even though we may have different ideas about what's what, we need each other and must try to coexist in harmony.
Both points of view have scientific info to back them up. Just because there seem to be solar system-wide changes occurring that may be affecting life on Earth does not mean that we shouldn't be concerned about what's happening under our own atmospheric umbrella, especially since we have more of a chance of making a difference here on Earth. Just because the sun's magnetic field is strengthening doesn't mean that we should continue to spew toxic chemicals into our atmosphere. These chemicals contribute to the ill health of the species of our planet. This activity is disrespectful and malicious and causes great suffering. This is reason enough to stop doing it! Kind, compassionate caring for our "home", "our planet" by all who depend on Her for their very survival may be the shift in energy that is required to change everything! I believe that if every individual did one small kind thing right now that we would all hear the Earth sigh in relief! We must never loose faith in the power of one small random act of kindness.
None of us know "the meaning of life". We can only speculate. When we finally know the meaning of it all -- when we finally "get" it -- we will no longer be living it.
We must continue to have the conversation, though. Leaving the conversation is not the answer. I want to hear what everyone has to say. I don't need to agree with you but I do need to hear what you have to say.
PS I wish more of the people who are members of this site participated. It is always the same few people who contribute. I wonder why that is?
19 Dec 2007 @ 16:31 by jazzolog : Yeah, It Wouldn't Hurt, Would It?
to cut down and cut back on the extravagance. There are plenty of moral reasons, given the poverty of the rest of the world. Even if you don't believe in the science---or believe in science PERIOD---surely most spiritual teachings speak of moving through life without leaving a mess---or even a trace. What is the explanation of a culture that needs speed and noise---pumping them constantly. Is it not rage and resentment?
19 Dec 2007 @ 18:07 by vaxen : These...
arguments pro and con are old hat. Tesla was "ranting" about the same things in his time as were others. Yet you persist in demeaning the human spirit by saying things like: "Write to your senators and congressmen!" Doesn't work! They are Corporate puppets bilking the whole krewe of planet Earth! They are the ones "Causing" all the stink! Education (mind control in your current, 'state' controlled and very jaded system), braintrainment, sucks!!!
I don't drive your stinkng cars and have been involved in revolution evolution and trying to get people to think about the 'toxic sludge' for ages! Yet...it still goes on and on and on! And YOU support it by paying taxes and by not really even caring to understand, let alone get involved in, 'real politick!'
"I've copied both your compliment and an example of Vaxen..." An example of 'Vaxen?' People leaving the so called New Civilization Network because of ranters? How friggin arrogant of you!
Maybe you ought to try educating your little children to the fact that they've been enslaved by the shapers of their minds and lives via the state sponsored 'educational' system? 120 human beings a week you call soldiers who are fighting in any one of ten overt and covert 'American wars' are committing suicide!
Do those facts grab your ass at all? I doubt it! And you talk about global warming with millions of dead Iraquis, and others, screaming out for justice! Stop paying taxes! "...an example of Vaxen..." Indeed! We will shake your systems till they fall and rot!
Yeah, best go to where everyone knows you're game and all agree and there is no testing of the turf. Nice, grey, homogenized little worlds like Dubai which your tax moneys built and Arabs control.
I guess the savants here didn't read this or follow the link (Too busy licking their imagined wounds or kissing each others derriers):
"We can express our relevant contemporary approach as Sacred Activism. Our true work remains to know ourselves and express that from the deepest levels outward in practice and compassionate service.
"We can identify, analyze and neutralize adversarial energies with reclaimed courageous voices. If we see the Big Picture, we can link information to action, like 2020 Vision."
Many believe our ancestors can hear and see us although they lose interest quickly once they cross over. They live somewhere between our fears and desires. But some go so far as to claim that technically inclined spirits are facilitating the electronic communiqués of their fellows by manipulating radio waves and signals to form words or meaningful visual images. Sound implausible? It wasn’t so long ago we would have denied the potential of “Voluntary ESP” via the Internet.
Throughout much of human history, ancestors were revered and frequently visited in caves and barrows. People sat in these natural resonant echochambers, chanting and drumming hypnotically and opening their altered psyches to the possibility of communication with the Beyond – voices of eternity.
People died so young, this youthful population needed shamanic guidance, needed primal wisdom. We are just coming to understand that our immature culture can benefit by rooting ourselves in deep time and the wisdom of eternity. We still dream at night of connecting somehow with our departed loved ones.
Order From Chaos
“We talk through quantum signals.” ~EVP message, Frank Sumption, 2007
The astral airwaves are chock full of interpenetrating Extremely Low Frequency (ELF), Ultra Low Frequency (ULF) and Very Low Frequency (VLF) waves upon waves of electronic noise. The Earth and atmosphere also produce electromagnetic energy and signals, such as Whistles, Spherics, Tweeks, Earthquake Precursors and Schumann’s Resonance. They travel through the Earth and atmosphere. 
We live in an ocean of random motion that is a holographic information field of interference patterns. It is perturbed by the electronic smog of modern life: media broadcast, cell phones, microwaves, the 60-cycle hum, HAARP. We are immersed in electronic cross talk and interference. Circuits can even resonate without any external power source by resonance.
Recent evidence suggests that noise actually aids the transmission of a signal. A small amount of feedback enhances the voices, but too much just wipes them out. Random fluctuations actually enhance wave propagation. They can boost a weak signal to detectable levels through the phenomenon of stochastic resonance. Increasing amplitude creates qualitative changes. Positive feedback leads to resonance of random and periodic stimuli.
Mankind Research Unlimited---
"Oh, the farmer and the cowhand should be friends..." ~ Oklahoma
19 Dec 2007 @ 18:11 by bushman : Hmm,
so far no commentors are saying not to be more clean and efficiant, not one person is saying that at all, everyone on NCN is useing less resorces than the majority already. No one is saying just because some of us think and know that climate change is a reality that its ok to burn more oil. Just because some of us disagree that man is the main cause, dosnt mean they are against doing green stuff. This is where the blindness caused by global warming activists goes astray. You brainwashed people just assume because some people arent buying the global warming agenda in here, we are somehow these big idiot poluters. I know there is no way your useing less resorces than me, jerry or jazz or athedge. I see it as devolutionist ideals you try to asert, rather than breaking thru into a clean green utopian future. Speed and noise has nothing to do with it. The sound barier is broken with a single bang and then its done, if we hold back that is where it becomes constant noise and a small mess in one place is better than a huge mess spread over large areas. There is no going back to simpler days and as for all that so called carbon foot print of some resort in another country, one day we will have the tech to power and build stuff without oil, and just a simple change in power sorce would make those high tech buildings the cleanest in the world, because they already have them as efficiant as they can be in design and structure, with smart lighting and insulating materials, they are far more efficiant than any old building thats a 1/4 its size and scope. Because it looks estravagant you assume its a resorce pig, seems older folks think this. My parents are like that, to them looks are everything, so as they dont want to look like hillybillies, they spend the money to look good, rather than spend it on efficancy. Backwards thinking is what makes the mess. No one seems to see time and motion, the constant flow of a signwave, rather they just see the wave on its upslope at the moment and panic. That kind of vision does a dis servis to those of use who are able to understand time and motion, those of use who have been most efficiant with everything we do, not just doing a single thing when top officials say so. Reminds me of the water situation when I lived in CA, we had already cut our water use by 50% before they started to impose restrictions, then they get on my case telling me I need to cut my water use by 20% from my curent use, the system is blind to those already doing green stuff, makeing it almost imposable to survive. So now I can live off 200 bucks a month as lean and clean as I can make it. But do they see it? No, they just increase my costs to the point that I cant survive in there system. Basicly shifting the burden on individuals so that big corperate gluttons have all the low cost resorces, this is the lie of global warming agendas, to make you live in squalar for what big corps sell you.
19 Dec 2007 @ 20:17 by vaxen : Agendas in pink:
The following is a review of a book the globalista global warming let's all hug one another and dream the good dream folks could benefit from reading.
Nah, they don't want sovereignty and responsibility...they want the Corporate Welfare State to "Educate" them so that they might KowTow to their betters and appear to be ever so gracious whilst they await the handouts of big Momma State all the while shiving you in the back for believing in individual rights and personal property.
The global warming hoax is just another in a long line of 'scientific (ahem)' palindromes ( "Able was I ere I saw Elba.") which will enable/empower those controlling 'issues' to steal more land and enslave more souls!
Sorry, Al: "global warming" hysteria is bunk -- and this environmental expert has the hard evidence to prove it
by Bjorn Lomborg
Former vice president Al Gore … excuse us, Oscar-winning documentarian, Nobel laureate, and shamelessly hypocritical mansion-dwelling, jet-setting energy pig Al Gore … says global warming is nothing short of a "planetary emergency" demanding elaborate and expensive actions that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. But is the hysteria surrounding global warming rational? And would the solutions he has in mind make things better for mankind -- or worse? Now, in Cool It: The Skeptical Environmentalist's Guide to Global Warming, noted environmental expert Bjorn Lomborg draws on extensive studies and analysis -- including the UN's most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Report -- to debunk numerous popular myths that are causing people to panic (and Al Gore to win prizes).
Lomborg -- previously the author of the bestselling The Skeptical Environmentalist, and named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people in 2004 -- does believe that global warming is occurring, but not to the degree, or at the pace, that alarmists like Al Gore would have us believe. Nor are the consequences all bad -- in fact, some are, and will be, very good, not only for our species but for others. The key, he believes, is to assess the facts and approach whatever problems need to be addressed in a rational way -- which means not wasting all our energy and resources on Chicken Little hysteria when there are more pressing problems facing the world.
Cool It gives you the facts and documentation behind hundreds of "politically incorrect" revelations like these:
Sea levels will rise about one foot over the next century, according to the UN's 2007 IPCC report -- the same rise that has occurred worldwide since 1860. A 20-foot rise, such as the one seen in An Inconvenient Truth, is hypothetical at best
Global polar bear populations, contrary to environmentalists' claims, are generally stable, and two populations around the Arctic Sea are actually growing. The most substantial drops in polar bear populations are a result of recreational hunting, not global warming
The recent increase in impact from hurricanes and storms has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with the rising concentrations of population and infrastructure in coastal areas. The data available today does not support unequivocal claims that global warming is worsening storms
Though such global warming as may actually occur will mean more heat-related deaths -- about 40,000 more in the United States in 2050 -- there will also be 200,000 fewer cold deaths by then in the US.
The Kyoto Protocol is both impossibly ambitious and environmentally inconsequential. It would cost $180 billion a year for the rest of the century but would only postpone global warming by five years in 2100.
"Brimming with useful facts and common sense" -- Wall Street Journal
"Brilliant! A devastating critique of the prevailing climate change hysteria. This book provides an overwhelming case for re-assessing where exactly our policy priorities should lie if we are genuinely concerned with world welfare rather than with making noble--if futile--gestures that, at best, make us feel good but actually do a lot of harm." --Wilfred Beckerman, professor emeritus of economics, Oxford University
"A highly valuable contribution to the climate-policy literature. In clear and concise prose, Lomborg diagnoses the problems plaguing contemporary climate policy, injecting a needed tonic of realism and common sense into the climate debate. And for that very reason, it is sure to make Lomborg's critics hot-under-the-collar." --- Jonathan Adler, National Review
"Bjorn Lomborg is the best-informed and most humane advocate for environmental change in the world today. ... [He] is only interested in real problems, and he has no patience with media fear-mongering.... In the end, his ability to put climate in a global perspective is perhaps the book's greatest value. Lomborg and Cool It are our best guides to our shared environmental future." -- Michael Crichton, bestselling novelist
"Lomborg affirms that the planet is warming, but questions why so much of the policy debate is framed around the idea of imminent catastrophe. This book dares to offer straightforward new thinking about how best to respond. Indispensable." -- Clive Crook, associate editor, Financial Times; senior editor, The Atlantic Monthly
"At last we have a book that puts the hype of global warming into perspective. Bjorn Lomborg's eye-opening book, Cool It, examines and meticulously documents climate change's effects and proposed solutions. An extraordinarily timely and supremely useful book." --John Naisbitt, author of Megatrends
"Basically there is a slow turning against a long standing theocracy and an end to the 60 cycle power grid-replaced w something better. 2109 is supposedly the year some "real" scientists successfully signal the year 1974 and give instructions on how to prevent global warming from becoming thermal runaway." - "KT"
20 Dec 2007 @ 00:58 by mortimer : descendents of a generation
jazzolog; ""What is the explanation of a culture that needs speed and noise---pumping them constantly. Is it not rage and resentment?"" –my meme: The emotionally immature are the descendents of a generation that valued instant gratification.
20 Dec 2007 @ 07:07 by vaxen : Very astute...
observation, mortimer. Now please explain further which generation would that be and who are it's descendents? The emotionally immature are often 'kept' that way by a state based mind control system called 'modern education.'
You may be familiar with the writings of John Taylor Gatto, in this regard, though he isn't the only one to have the correlative facts on government-controlled compulsory education.
In A Different Kind of Teacher, John Gatto explains that our present government-controlled, compulsory education system was largely brought about by wealthy industrialists who were afraid of a revolution similar to the one that occurred in the Soviet Union. They wanted to control the working class and make them a group of obedient followers.
And here is a link to a .pdf file, linked at your blog too, that you can right click and download, or if you have adobe reader installed you can read it online, which gives the 'scientific reasoning' behind our claims that Gore is a bunch of hooey and politically motivated in the extreme as is the `Global Warming Hoax!' By politically I do not mean `interested in societie's' welfare either.'
And further afoot:
World Prosperity - A group that is dedicated to defining the root causes of social dysfunction, the most fundamental of which is a dysfunctional educational system.
A ROOT CAUSE, as we use the term, differs from a cause, in that it is the reason for the cause, and is correctible simply by educating society about it and making a cost-free shift in public policy. Many people don't understand this distinction, and believe incorrectly that the cause that they have identified is the most fundamental one, and if that cause is not correctable, conclude that the problem is insolvable.
20 Dec 2007 @ 10:33 by jazzolog : The Lost Generation
My mother's childhood was on a working family farm in Western New York in the 1920s. Cows to milk, garden to grow. I have treasured photos of the whole family, which consisted of 3 girls (Rhea, Leora, and Lucille) plus Grandfather Edward and Grandmother Dora, out digging potatoes, and preparing the buckboard to take any leftover produce 5 miles to Frewsburg to sell. Edward died on Mom's 13th birthday and the nation fell in the Great Depression. They moved into that little town, and the girls found work as best they could. Mom became a nurse and met my dad, who was working as an aide in the same hospital at which she got hired in nearby Jamestown. He barely had made it through school himself, as he needed to find work to help out the family during the mid-1930s. Grandfather John worked for the trolley company and later the post office I believe, while Grandmother Ada raised the 2 daughters, Marian and Allene---and another daughter who died from the flu---and Ralph. When Ralph and Rhea got married, and had me in 1940, we were headed for War and rationing. I remember rice, Spam, vegetables purchased from any door-to-door peddler (who might have a sidelot garden) and junket for dessert. Talk about recycling? We saved everything we could think of for the war effort. Kids brought in pennies at school to gradually buy US bonds. We had paper drives on the weekend. The country entered the war owing money to everyone. Soldiers coming home found a housing shortage.
When we entered the 1950s, everyone owed the US money. We had an economic boom. My mom and dad had never known meat on the table for every supper. You could have it for every meal! There were labor-saving devices for Mom. Ever clean your clothes with a wringer washer? OK, it's easier than a washboard and a tub...or rocks by the stream. When Dad brought an automatic washer to Mom for Christmas, it was like the caveman dragging home a mastodon. I remember Dad riding a bicycle to work at the war factory during gas rationing, but now we had a family car for rides on Sunday afternoon. It was luxury for all, and my generation got used to it. Mom and Dad never forgot the sacrifice required in youth, and tried to teach us to live economically---as they struggled with diets and trying to take that weight off. Nothing worked, and they suffered conditions caused by overweight---and my generation was said to have to learn everything the hard way. Not only that: we became Beat and rebels (with and without causes) and even Hippies. And jazz and rock.
I'd say the generation of us guys in our 60s and 70s doesn't really know any better. Mom and Dad tried to provide for us, used the boom years to do it, and ended up shielding us from some of the realities of life. They didn't mean to I think, but they did get lured by the ads for the new easy life. Everybody thought it would last forever---and that we deserved it!
Guys in their 50s may be worse off. They went to Viet Nam, made it home and scratched out for themselves a "piece of the dream." Now, with their rifles and gas-powered vehicles they stand guard---and give money to Ron Paul. You gonna tell that guy that tossing a piece of paper out his car window is littering? Just try.
20 Dec 2007 @ 10:46 by jazzolog : Along The Same Lines
This is a comment at an About.com forum that my wife likes. It's in response to her post of the news article you all may have seen called The Artic Is Screaming---obviously about the Warming. Kennet, whose nickname at About is JokkMokk, is a research scientist in Sweden~~~
'Arctic Is Screaming,'
I feel like screaming. I've been at the conservative forum trying to calmly and rationally address this topic. I find myself contending with views ranging from "global warming is a hoax" to "its all just natural variation" to "its going to be beneficial" and then rather than conversion of the sceptics, usually end up at square one with the denial all over again.
Some people are never going to believe, let alone act. Some perceive (erroneously) the solutions to human contributions to global warming go against their own tangible self-interests. Others believe that the free market will cure all ills - people will conserve when they are forced to by rising costs.
I'm sure you have encountered the same. What to do but drive over them with their own Hummer? ;-)
IMO, we'll see a lot more converts in 2011. That's when the waning in the 11-yr solar sunspot cycle that has been shielding us from much of the impact of global warming these past years will turn. Next decade is going to be a tough one. However by then, our ability to prevent a lot of the very harmful consequences of global warming will be past.
I do commend you yanks who have taken very impressive steps at the local and state level. Much more impressive than many of my EU neighbor States have done. I am pessimistic about getting the USA to engage in this issue at the national level, so those efforts are all the more important. Keep up the good work!
BTW: armed with your last name and city, I found your husband's blog. It seems like your whole family is united in the cause, and that's where it all has to start.
20 Dec 2007 @ 14:55 by jerryvest : Thanks for sharing your history,
Jazzo. As we are about the same age, I can identify with these early years, the trials and tribulations. I recall that all of us who grew up in rural, farming communities worked very hard, yet didn't complain--it's just the way the "cookie crumbles," if you will. We were expected to be honest, kind and respectful.
My dad was a telephone man so he didn't serve in WWII because of his high tech position; however, his 4 sons, all served in the military. My older brother is a Korean Vet. and we followed in his footsteps. Anyway,I am working on completing all of the requirements to return full time to my basic training roots (1954), Ft. Bliss, to work with the soldiers and their families returning and going to Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a lengthy process, but I should get an interview in mid-January. I'm in good shape and have been doing stress managment classes for the soldiers for the past 25 years for the US Army Community Services on a part-time basis. I think that I can be helpful to the soldiers as I have been practicing and teaching integrative health practices for many years and these methods, such as mindfulness, meditation, relaxation and stress management, can help their body-mind-emotions-spirit become more balanced and peaceful.
Thanks again for continuing your logs here as they have a positive and kind expression for those of us who are now part of the elder and "growing young" population. I know that I can identify with you and your family in many ways as we also spent three years in southeast Ohio and Athens was the nearest city for us to find good movies, restaurants, book stores and shopping.
Best wishes, Jerry
20 Dec 2007 @ 17:57 by a-d : Hej Kennet. SKÅL!
...och VAD -exakt- av sk. "Goda Ting" för vår sargade Planet och hennes Klimat och Väderlek har Amerikerna gjort eller kommit up med annat än ---- Du vet/"borde" veta; all den FÖRSTÖRELSE som USA har åstadkommit helt utan "hjälp" av andra Länder/Nationer....???
Varför går du med håven?
Vems godkännande el. möjl. favörer är du ute efter???? Varför -tror du- att du måste smickra dom med LÖGNER - UPPENBARA för ALLA -utom -kanske- dig!?!?!?!?!?..... sorgligt och synnerligen pinsamt när folk tror att, att vara röv---- är "the way to go" !....du t.o.m. är villig att BÄRA FALSKT VITTNESBÖRD (= att ljuga.) -vilket är helt uppenbart till alla som har även den minsta lilla inblick i vad som händer o sker ))- om Europas insats att minska gifter och skrot och dyl. (Allt sådant har en effekt på klimat o. väderlek, inte minst genom möjl. renhet el nersmutsning av vattendrag, jord, luften ....
Vems Ärenden springer du???...
...och SKÅL, igen! ;)/ Astrid
Ha! I'll be sure he gets this!
20 Dec 2007 @ 18:54 by vaxen : Generations...
So I take it that you include yourself in mortimer's 'instant gratification' generation and that you accept the 'blame' game's sanctioning you as 'the cause of it all,' Mr Jazzolog? ;)
Maybe you haven't heard of the U.N's "Sustainable Developement swindle? It is also called Agenda 21. Bush (Poppy) signed it in 1991 and Clinton, a year later, pushed it through. They are both traitors to the American people.
Rio Summit Earth was where Agenda 21 was first unveiled and the Hegelian dialectic you are witnessing, vis a vis such extreme dimentia on the side of the pro's and con's over global warming, is one of it's asymmetrical 'tangles.' Create the problem, offer the solution (Which you had in your back pocket all the time [*wink, wink*])...a kind of Mafia (The globaloney 'Elite') protectionism.
Sustainable Developement is the most insideous form of takeover ever to come down the pike. Where fully 50 % of American 'land' will be off limits to humans. Humans will be sent to the urban centers for 'reprocessing' and 'control' (Witness what happened during 'Katrina') Ah, KRC! Just grand!
Unalienable rights? Or laws made by 'the elite' meant to control everything you do including your thoughts! The elite, of course, will have everything as they live in their walled off boxes but you? Subsistance...
The Draft Covenant on Environment and Developement states in article 8 "...equity will be achieved through implementation of the international economic order - and through transfer of resources to developing countries..."
No free enterprise but public private partnerships. A global "collective" with all peoples in the world as it's subjects! http://www.iclei.org/
Alternative to Agenda 21 (Sustainable Developement); Preface: http://www.freedom21.org/alternative/preface.shtml
I do understand how some people are desirous of universal communism. I am not one of them and I must tell you that there are many of us who will not become slaves to your new world order pandering. You are to be lauded, jerry, for having the desire to work with 'the troops' but with 120 of them committing suicide every week - all year long...? Maybe you should examine the 'root cause' of why these slaves are being sent to die for global communism in the first place? And perhaps even read what the army thinks of the political system called 'Democracy?' Ah, but that is probably too much to ask. Are you aware of DoD's "Operation Transition?"
Are you familiar with EFT?
"Photonics is the basis of the Information Revolution.." - "KT"
"My burden is easy and my yoke is light." Rabbi Yeshua Ben Yosef
And A-d I suppose that this " UPPEN BARA för ALLA" means that the Up pen is on the outs (Bara) for Alla? Or does it mean our Logner is now converting to Islam? ;) Sic Hej Kennet?
Fasces Lictoriae and transcendent warfare! The Aquarium is alive and well and the fish are eating the birds in the Aviary. Or, at least, utilising them as intuitive intelligence applications. Gravity is enfolded EM potential.
"Sic Itur Ad Astra." - Virgil, Aeneid, book IX, line 641
"we are compelled by the quantity of available social and political facts to learn a new visual language for mastering the inner dynamics by the outer" (McLuhan, New Media as Political Forms 2-3).
20 Dec 2007 @ 20:04 by vaxen : Freedom 21
The Freedom 21 Agenda
The Freedom 21 Agenda is envisioned to be a blueprint that will result in the advancement of the principles of freedom in the local community, in Washington, and throughout the world.
Agenda 21 http://www.sovereignty.net/p/sd/a21/ , adopted in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, at the U.N. Conference on Environment and development, has had profound influence on public policy. The objective of this document is to integrate environmental protection, economic development, and social equity - under the management of global authorities.
The Freedom 21 Agenda can have a profound influence on public policy. This document will seek to set forth the principles and specific policy recommendations that will - first and foremost - protect and advance the principles of freedom enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and other founding documents.
To ensure that the Freedom 21 Agenda represents the broadest possible array of ideas and suggestons, working groups are being formed to work within defined issue areas: (1) Environment and property rights; (2) Education and Family; (3) Security and international relations; and (4) Responsible government.
The first two working groups are now organizing. The Environment and property rights working group is co-chaired by David Rothbard, President of the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and Fred Kelly Grant, with Stewards of the Range.
The Education and family working group is co-chaired by Tom DeWeese, President of the American Policy Center, and Cathie Adams, President of Texas Eagle Forum. Both of the working groups are now adding additional contributors to their groups.
A draft of their work-to-date will be presented at the Freedom 21 Conference in St. Louis, Missouri, July 12-14, 2001. Participants will review their work, and offer suggested revisions and ideas during workshops on Saturday afternoon.
The work product of the working groups will also be posted on this web site, for review and additional suggestions from people who are unable to attend the conference.
Eventually, we will compile the best ideas from people all across this country to incorporate into the final document. Since its objective is a blueprint to freedom, its recommendations should be much more appealing and effective than those which have permeated public policy since 1992.
Everyone who shares the dream of a free people living responsible lives, without constant "management" by government, will want to participate in this exciting challenge.
"Sic Itur Ad Astra." - Virgil
("Thus do we reach the stars" - Aeneid, book IX, line 641)
20 Dec 2007 @ 20:54 by a-d : heheh...Jazzoooo
...just be forwarned!...; ) Kennet does not have his Ducks in a row -as the saying goes... and I'm letting him know that!....Soooo....with that said... Where is the poor "Bastard"; here -or there ( like Sweden, "for instance" ;)...? since if he really is IN Sweden and says what he says...which he -obviously- does, he should be flushed down the -proverbial- Toilett!Hurumph!^!^
20 Dec 2007 @ 22:26 by vaxen : Engage!
Yup, that's my girl! Gettem Tiger! Be gentle, though, for after all is said and done ... you're a nurse for Gotterdamerungs sake! Or is your name really Skadhi?
And a nice literal translation would be coolish, too, as it would save me the time of making a poor one. If I did I'd probably tramp on some TOE (Theory of everything) and get blasted by someone's blackthorn rod! Oi! Then I'd have to fight back and, well, you know ... fleas are so, so ... bothersome. Especially in the winter time. As Adam Go Rightly always says: " Make your own gods!"
CHARLES STONE, M.A.
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Detailed reports, letters, maps and more are available.. Let me know your most pressing Federal Questions. I will provide you the name, address and phone number of the responsible elected and appointed officials.
21 Dec 2007 @ 01:23 by a-d : aaahhh...well....
The verbatim Translator has gone home for the day...; )... the only clue the T-lator left us is: "....not his ducks in a row". "Arslychus".... well ... : ) K seems to be one! hehehhe.... : 0 /// : ( /// ;)
21 Dec 2007 @ 06:04 by vaxen : ;)
Rest well. Heh, heh...old Arslychus! ;) Here's some relative "stuff." A Kata Strophe is a Kata Strophe...
"We're like herds of cattle, grazing placidly, unable or unwilling to imagine that we might share the same fate as the millions throughout the Third World targeted by the elite as "bottom feeders," contributing nothing -- eating into their profit -- gluttons who must be dispensed with."
Culling The Herd
By Sheila Samples
"Everything you can imagine is real"~~ Pablo Picasso
12/17/07 "ICH" -- - In 1974, a year after orchestrating a mass terror bombing of Cambodia -- after being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize -- Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and his National Security Council completed “National Security Study Memo 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” This document, whose sharp edges are dulled by page after leaden page of how to reduce over-population in the Third World through birth control and "other" population-reduction programs, was classified until 1989, but was almost immediately accepted as US policy, and remains the US blueprint for ethnic cleansing today.
It is difficult to imagine the staggering number of innocent humans who have perished through war or famine as a direct result of Kissinger's half-century obsession with, and lust for, genocide. It's even more difficult to imagine the cruel indifference with which Kissinger, and those like him in positions of political and corporate power -- the elite -- continue to plan the elimination of millions, even billions. All under the guise of national security, or to spread freedom...democracy...
Kissinger targeted a number of "key countries" whose populations, he said, must be curtailed and controlled lest they gain economic, political and military strength, and thus threaten US strategic interests. "Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world," Kissinger said, "because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.”
Then, as now, any nation refusing to surrender its natural resources was an ominous threat to our national security and was dealt with initially through birth control and other population-reduction programs such as food rationing. But that was too slow for Kissinger, for Brent Snowcroft who replaced Kissinger as national security adviser and was put in charge of thinning out the Third World population, and for his eager enabler, CIA Director George Bush who trotted like a love-starved puppy at Kissinger's heels for decades.
At first, they used food as "an instrument of national power" to coerce the dumb masses to stop copulating and populating, and then as a deadly weapon because widespread famine not only dealt death quicker, but it was cost-effective. And it made more sense. Like Kissinger said, "To give food aid to a country just because they (sic) are starving is a pretty weak reason."
US Army loses another 12,000 guns and trucks:
The US military in Iraq has lost track of another 12,000 weapons, including more than 800 machine-guns, and everything from 2100 new electricity generators to half a dozen garbage trucks.
PS: Kissinger is pure evil. But forgets that when evil has consumed all that is good it too must perish! Like the Global Warming Hoax spawned by the Agenda 21 Eugenics Krewes...
21 Dec 2007 @ 10:28 by jazzolog : Sitting Ducks
floating in the gallery
quacks on all sides
Here's a dolly for the new baby at home.
21 Dec 2007 @ 17:39 by vaxen : Pressed Duck
The Trilateral commission 'Too much democracy' theory in motion.
The effective operation of a democratic political system usually requires some measure of apathy and noninvolvement on the part of some individuals and groups." "[S]ecrecy and deception...are...inescapable attributes of ... government." The crisis caused by an "excess of democracy" in the 1960s shows the wisdom of, for example, privatizing public enterprise and deregulating industry. How can one expect competence from hoi polloi?
27 Dec 2007 @ 22:07 by vaxen : Petition:
Global Warming Petition
We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.
This petition has been signed by over 19,000 American scientists.
Letter from Frederick Seitz
Research Review of Global Warming Evidence
Enclosed is a twelve-page review of information on the subject of "global warming," a petition in the form of a reply card, and a return envelope. Please consider these materials carefully.
The United States is very close to adopting an international agreement that would ration the use of energy and of technologies that depend upon coal, oil, and natural gas and some other organic compounds.
This treaty is, in our opinion, based upon flawed ideas. Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful. To the contrary, there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful.
Click here http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p41.htm to see the rest of this letter from the past president of the National Academy of Sciences.
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
A review of the research literature concerning the environmental consequences of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion that increases during the 20th Century have produced no deleterious effects upon global weather, climate, or temperature. Increased carbon dioxide has, however, markedly increased plant growth rates. Predictions of harmful climatic effects due to future increases in minor greenhouse gases like CO2 are in error and do not conform to current experimental knowledge.
Click here http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm to see this peer reviewed research paper.
Note: The Petition Project has no funding from energy industries or other parties with special financial interests in the "global warming" debate. Funding for the project comes entirely from private non-tax deductible donations by interested individuals.
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