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16 comments5 Jul 2007 @ 12:02 by jazzolog : Ad Libbying
I'd never imply we should feel sorry for twitchy Chris Buckley, schoonering around the Vineyard with dear old dad. His idea of the GOP surely is envisioned with a gaze down the Buckley nose of noblesse oblige sneezed at the lesser beings swarming below. But if Olympus is impatient with the fratboy cheerleader, will some discomfort begin to trickle down?
I've just spent 2 hours researching Libby developments and reading tons of speeches and comments about the whole deal. I too think cute Scoot is small potatoes in all this, but we may have to kick the lapdog to get at the fat matron. Essentially I find the newspapers and media typically soft on this topic. Wishy washy really. Keith Olbermann compared this commutation with Nixon's mistake of firing Archibald Cox. Suddenly Watergate crystalized in the public imagination as it had not before...and Nixon was on the way out the White House door. But there we had a press hungry for such a misstep...and now different owners are in charge. The question is did Bush make such a mistake on Monday, a mistake that's just going to grow and grow?
The first indication that he has comes from United States District Court Judge Reggie B. Walton whose jurisdiction is the District of Columbia. On Tuesday he issued an order to Libby to clarify for the court just how the President's commutation is supposed to be carried out...and for that clarification to be returned by next Monday. Judge Walton reminds the convict that the verdict (in a trial by jury) reads that his 2-year period of "supervised release" is to begin the very moment he concludes his period of imprisonment. Like everybody else, he goes from his cell directly to the probation office. The judge wants to know if Libby is supposed to report to his probation officer immediately, or at some more "convenient time" for him, or if we are to construe that Bush's clemency precludes any probation at all. Judge Walton concludes if Libby's people want to inquire of the White House what to do, he encourages them to do so.
That's the actual court order and is a PDF. CNN seems to be the rare outlet that reported the story, and if you're not on good terms with Acrobat here's their take on it http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/03/libby.sentence/index.html
Of the columns and rants, decorated VietNam vet John Cory's Once Upon America from yesterday is getting picked up by several blogs...and I will too. Both Truth Spring and TruthOut posted it I think~~~
Once Upon America
By John Cory
Wednesday 04 July 2007
"No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices."
- Edward R. Murrow
And so it goes. The 4th of July is here with its parades and "what America means to me" essays, and picnics and fireworks, and all those pretty speeches about freedom and democracy and the true meaning of Independence Day. But it is all a facade. A lie.
Modern America now spies on its citizens, conducts warrantless wiretaps, suspends habeas corpus, creates "free speech zones" to corral protestors out of sight of sensitive royal eyes, and politicizes the very justice system meant to protect people's rights by turning it into a fraternity of God-fearing Republican conservatism. Neocon America rewards hate speech with celebrity, reviles the very immigration that built this country, and sells out to the highest lobbyist while poisoning its people. Preemptive war trumps truth, and death is glorified by those who never have to sacrifice an ounce of flesh. America has become the personal ATM machine of Bush and the GOP while their corporate cronies line their pockets with the lives of our loved ones.
Washington is no longer that "shining city on the hill," but rather a dismal swamp cloud of shadows that slink about in swirls of deception. The people's house is a piceous cavern of razor black secrets that shred the Constitution with every breath. And those charged with defending the Constitution - defending the Bill of Rights - scurry around in frantic search for the cheese of compromise and campaign contributions.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Americans have become orphans of the great silence.
Democrat and Republican alike have forsaken representation of the people and the people's will. The latest polls show that 77 percent of Americans want the troops home from Iraq. And still the politicians argue for more time, maybe more money, maybe there is a way to support the troops without confronting the GOP machine. Congressional approval is at the same depressing nadir as that of George Bush. The people voted for change and got nothing but wimpy words and bluster and more political petulance - and more death and destruction.
America needs leadership, not Congressional co-conspirators or senatorial somnambulists. We need inspiration, not desperation. Edward R. Murrow said: "We hardly need to be reminded that we are living in an age of confusion - a lot of us have traded in our beliefs for bitterness and cynicism or for a heavy package of despair, or even a quivering portion of hysteria. Opinions can be picked up cheap in the market place while such commodities as courage and fortitude and faith are in alarmingly short supply."
I'm not a smart guy, nor educated in the fine political arts, but here's the deal: it's time to wake up and step up, dear Democrats. Plan all you want to take Congressional seats in the '08 elections - but be prepared to pay the price for inaction today. Nothing is off the table. Nothing. Ever.
Push the subpoenas to this White House. Don't fold. Don't whine. Don't run. And while you push the subpoenas to find the truth, fashion your spending bill that America supports, the one with the timetable for bringing our loved ones home. And then push that the day after you push the subpoenas. And when Bush vetoes the spending bill, shout it from the nearest blog and rooftop, that George Bush just vetoed America. Vetoed the will of the American people. And push for another vote.
And then generate the bill to bring back the Draft. That's right, the Draft. If Bush's war is so damned patriotic that he keeps recycling the troops over and over - then it is the patriotic duty of every American son and daughter to be drafted and serve. And when Bush vetoes that, remind America that the war is not all that patriotic, and certainly not for everyone - just those that Bush picks to die in the sandbox of incompetence and violence that is Iraq.
And then you start impeachment procedures against Bush and Cheney and Rove. You push the hearings that must be shown to all the American people - the voters - the ones who live and die at the hands of these ruthless, greedy thugs and power-hungry politicians.
And when you are called un-American and unpatriotic, point your finger at Bush and Cheney and remind everyone of Ronald Reagan, who said: "Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty." And that, my Democratic friends, is all the bipartisanship this country needs. The words of Dr. King should be your comfort. "When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative."
It is the 4th of July. Celebrate Independence Day by repeating the words of George Bush when he addressed the UN Assembly on September 21, 2004. "The desire for freedom resides in every human heart. And that desire cannot be contained forever by prison walls or martial laws, or secret police. Over time, and across the Earth, freedom will find a way."
Any other choice and we become a story that begins, "Once upon America there used to be democracy and freedom"
And then there was Keith Olbermann on Tuesday night. Some of you know Keith was a celebrated sports commentator until the Bush team pulled him out of the dugout. On MSNBC his nightly Countdown show became among the most radical TV in primetime. He briefly withdrew from it I believe, but couldn't tolerate sitting in the bleachers and came back with a vengeance. In his long "special report" Tuesday, he calls for impeaching the whole pack of them. Here's a highlight~~~
We enveloped our President in 2001.And those who did not believe he should have been elected - indeed those who did not believe he had been elected - willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship.
And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and shaped it to a razor-sharp point and stabbed this nation in the back with it.
Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers.
Did so even before the appeals process was complete; did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice; did so despite what James Madison - at the Constitutional Convention - said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes "advised by" that president; did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish - the President will keep you out of prison?
In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental com-pact between yourself and the majority of this nation's citizens - the ones who did not cast votes for you. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States. In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party. And this is too important a time, Sir, to have a commander-in-chief who puts party over nation.
This has been, of course, the gathering legacy of this Administration. Few of its decisions have escaped the stain of politics. The extraordinary Karl Rove has spoken of "a permanent Republican majority," as if such a thing - or a permanent Democratic majority - is not antithetical to that upon which rests: our country, our history, our revolution, our freedoms.
Yet our Democracy has survived shrewder men than Karl Rove. And it has survived the frequent stain of politics upon the fabric of government. But this administration, with ever-increasing insistence and almost theocratic zealotry, has turned that stain into a massive oil spill.
The protection of the environment is turned over to those of one political party, who will financially benefit from the rape of the environment. The protections of the Constitution are turned over to those of one political party, who believe those protections unnecessary and extravagant and quaint.
The enforcement of the laws is turned over to those of one political party, who will swear beforehand that they will not enforce those laws. The choice between war and peace is turned over to those of one political party, who stand to gain vast wealth by ensuring that there is never peace, but only war.
And now, when just one cooked book gets corrected by an honest auditor, when just one trampling of the inherent and inviolable fairness of government is rejected by an impartial judge, when just one wild-eyed partisan is stopped by the figure of blind justice, this President decides that he, and not the law, must prevail.
I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.
I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.
I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent.
I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.
I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.
I accuse you of handing part of this Republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.
And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.
Another scene from Iraq~~~
A rotting corpse is devoured by dogs after having lain there for at least nine days. (Photo by Ashley Gilbertson)
5 Jul 2007 @ 16:21 by quinty : Humanity as trash
I've never seen anything quite like that photograph before. And the two dogs looks so "normal," like a neighbor's, or those trotting along the side of their master out on a walk.
Buckley's comment is the nostalgia for the past paleocons feel today in the Age of Bush. They see their forebearers as sensible and hard headed shepherds of the economy, avoiding waste and taxation. (Ignoring their traditional largesse for corporations.) Politically this appeal may be their only hope too: the promise to become “sensible” and hard headed once again. This may be the basis for Giuliani’s appeal: his backers think he’s strong and decisive. A competent version of Bush.
I watched Olbermann’s j’accuse tirade the other night and felt some satisfaction. And wished more on the mainstream were like him. But we live by many myths in this country and cling dearly to them. Olbermann’s ratings shot up, I’ve heard, when he began delivering these scathing “commentaries.” There must be a certain hunger out there for them.
So long as we cling to our myths Bush can be as outrageous as he likes, for he is, after all, President of the United States. And loudly or angrily speaking the truth about him will only be seen as bad manners. The boards upon which this administration trods are creaking with rot. Let ‘er go! I say.
There’s a quote from the Bible I’m attempting to pinpoint. Nor am I sure of the exact words. It goes something like: “By the manner they treat the least among them they shall be known.” Can anyone help me wit that?
5 Jul 2007 @ 20:37 by b : l little liberal perspective
At last, the Scooter thing is just another thing that happened during this administration. And in perspective it was all about the firing of a government employee and the strange procedure it took. Scooter just obstructed some beaurocrats from seeing the whole picture. Is that really comparable to Sandy Waterman stealing classified documents from a government archive and hiding them on a construction site? He didn't even get indicted, charged, let alone sentenced to prison.
C'mon, Jimmy Carter in the person of Micky Cantor(read his books) divided up the world and what counties values are. Reagen and Bush41 helped the Soviet empire to reassemble and PRC to softly reenter the world of Earth. THat left the 56 Mulim nations to rare up for the return to the dark ages. The Clinton's opened up the free world for the Muslims to enter and stay enraged at everything with no critisism allowed. THen the free word's new technologies were trasnsfered to communist China and America has to pay for it all. Why should it be surprising to anyone that Bush/Cheney decided to take Muslim dictator no.1 and waste him or to create a battlefield far from US shores to drive a wedge in the 56? Cause China is not far behind in world dominition? Their Olympic farce is de kappa. Watch and see. Scooter is just a little potato chip. Not worth the salt.
6 Jul 2007 @ 09:49 by jazzolog : Scooter Is, At Last, Actually The War
b, you may be interested in Amy Goodman's column yesterday---thanks to the heads-up from OU Professor Emeritus Bob Sheak~~~
Releasing Libby protects Bush & Cheney
Last updated July 5, 2007 5:15 p.m. PT
By AMY GOODMAN
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," says the preamble to the U.S. Declaration of Independence. Unless, of course, you are a friend of the president. By commuting Scooter Libby's sentence, President Bush is also protecting himself and Vice President Dick Cheney.
I asked former Ambassador Joe Wilson what he thought about the commutation. It was his 2003 opinion piece that refuted Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium from Africa. In retaliation, the White House leaked his wife, Valerie Plame's, name and CIA identity.
Wilson said, "It casts a cloud of suspicion over the president and begs the question whether the president is participating in an ongoing obstruction of justice and cover-up of criminal activity within the White House." I asked him how: "By ensuring that Libby will have no incentive to talk with the special prosecutor."
Prisoners often cooperate with government prosecutors in exchange for leniency. With the prison sentence gone, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald loses his leverage over Libby. While Bush and his subordinates stress that Libby still faces a $250,000 fine, the Libby Legal Defense Trust was set up to help him out.
Among the listed trustees are former senator, TV actor and likely Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson, and former CIA director and Iraq War booster James Woolsey. Woolsey's firm lobbied for the Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi's CIA-funded group that provided faulty intelligence in the lead-up to the war. Woolsey was also a member of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and involved with the Project for the New American Century, two influential groups that helped provide intellectual cover and political muscle for the invasion of Iraq. Given the power and wealth represented on his fundraising team, Libby will do just fine with his fine.
Blogger Marcy Wheeler, who followed the Libby trial closely, told me: "In some ways, commutation is worse than a pardon. With a commutation, Scooter Libby retains his Fifth Amendment rights." If Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., for example, were to call a hearing, Libby could still plead the Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination, remaining silent. Had he been pardoned and been completely cleared of any wrongdoing, he would have a harder time refusing to answer questions. Libby's continued silence protects Bush and Cheney.
The commutation also allows the Bush administration to remain silent. As Bush said, "I have said throughout this process that it would not be appropriate to comment or intervene in this case until Mr. Libby's appeals have been exhausted."
So the commutation ensures that Libby will not cooperate with Fitzgerald, and will not cooperate with Congress. Why does this matter? Because this case is not about obstruction of justice, it is not about perjury. Ultimately, this case is about war. The Bush administration's case for war depended on false claims about weapons of mass destruction. President George H.W. Bush hailed Wilson as "a true American hero" for his role as acting U.S. ambassador to Iraq when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990. But when Wilson publicly debunked the African uranium claim, he was attacked, his wife was outed, her career ruined. Her job: an undercover CIA operative investigating weapons of mass destruction. This week, the United Nations formally closed down their weapons search program in Iraq, United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission. So much for WMDs.
Thompson released a statement after the commutation, saying, "This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life." Good Americans sent to war, and who died, now number close to 3,600. They will not be getting on with their lives. And let's not forget the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed. More than 20,000 Americans are wounded, some with limbs lost, some blinded, some brain damaged. They have no choice but to get on with their lives, but without a star-studded fundraising committee.
The Declaration of Independence names unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It also says that when a government "becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it."
Amy Goodman is the host of "Democracy Now!," a daily international TV/radio news hour.
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David Sorel's illustration for this David Halberstam article in Vanity Fair http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/08/halberstam200708?currentPage=1
8 Jul 2007 @ 16:26 by Quinty @22.214.171.124 : What a loss!
At least we have Halberstam's book which is coming out in September - without need of further proofs, I hope. The Vanity Fair article was beautifully written and thought out....
9 Jul 2007 @ 11:53 by jazzolog : The Man Who Knows Too Much
The New York Times
A Profile in Cowardice
By Frank Rich
Sunday 08 July 2007
There was never any question that President Bush would grant amnesty to Scooter Libby, the man who knows too much about the lies told to sell the war in Iraq. The only questions were when, and how, Mr. Bush would buy Mr. Libby's silence. Now we have the answers, and they're at least as incriminating as the act itself. They reveal the continued ferocity of a White House cover-up and expose the true character of a commander in chief whose tough-guy shtick can no longer camouflage his fundamental cowardice.
The timing of the president's Libby intervention was a surprise. Many assumed he would mimic the sleazy 11th-hour examples of most recent vintage: his father's pardon of six Iran-contra defendants who might have dragged him into that scandal, and Bill Clinton's pardon of the tax fugitive Marc Rich, the former husband of a major campaign contributor and the former client of none other than the ubiquitous Mr. Libby.
But the ever-impetuous current President Bush acted 18 months before his scheduled eviction from the White House. Even more surprising, he did so when the Titanic that is his presidency had just hit two fresh icebergs, the demise of the immigration bill and the growing revolt of Republican senators against his strategy in Iraq.
That Mr. Bush, already suffering historically low approval ratings, would invite another hit has been attributed in Washington to his desire to placate what remains of his base. By this logic, he had nothing left to lose. He didn't care if he looked like an utter hypocrite, giving his crony a freer ride than Paris Hilton and violating the white-collar sentencing guidelines set by his own administration. He had to throw a bone to the last grumpy old white guys watching Bill O'Reilly in a bunker.
But if those die-hards haven't deserted him by now, why would Mr. Libby's incarceration be the final straw? They certainly weren't whipped into a frenzy by coverage on Fox News, which tended to minimize the leak case as a non-event. Mr. Libby, faceless and voiceless to most Americans, is no Ollie North, and he provoked no right-wing firestorm akin to the uproars over Terri Schiavo, Harriet Miers or "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
The only people clamoring for Mr. Libby's freedom were the pundits who still believe that Saddam secured uranium in Africa and who still hope that any exoneration of Mr. Libby might make them look less like dupes for aiding and abetting the hyped case for war. That select group is not the Republican base so much as a roster of the past, present and future holders of quasi-academic titles at neocon think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute.
What this crowd never understood is that Mr. Bush's highest priority is always to protect himself. So he stiffed them too. Had the president wanted to placate the Weekly Standard crowd, he would have given Mr. Libby a full pardon. That he served up a commutation instead is revealing of just how worried the president is about the beans Mr. Libby could spill about his and Dick Cheney's use of prewar intelligence.
Valerie Wilson still has a civil suit pending. The Democratic inquisitor in the House, Henry Waxman, still has the uranium hoax underlying this case at the top of his agenda as an active investigation. A commutation puts up more roadblocks by keeping Mr. Libby's appeal of his conviction alive and his Fifth Amendment rights intact. He can't testify without risking self-incrimination. Meanwhile, we are asked to believe that he has paid his remaining $250,000 debt to society independently of his private $5 million "legal defense fund."
The president's presentation of the commutation is more revealing still. Had Mr. Bush really believed he was doing the right and honorable thing, he would not have commuted Mr. Libby's jail sentence by press release just before the July Fourth holiday without consulting Justice Department lawyers. That's the behavior of an accountant cooking the books in the dead of night, not the proud act of a patriot standing on principle.
When the furor followed Mr. Bush from Kennebunkport to Washington despite his efforts to duck it, he further underlined his embarrassment by taking his only few questions on the subject during a photo op at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. You know this president is up to no good whenever he hides behind the troops. This instance was particularly shameful, since Mr. Bush also used the occasion to trivialize the scandalous maltreatment of Walter Reed patients on his watch as merely "some bureaucratic red-tape issues."
Asked last week to explain the president's poll numbers, Andrew Kohut of the Pew Research Center told NBC News that "when we ask people to summon up one word that comes to mind" to describe Mr. Bush, it's "incompetence." But cowardice, the character trait so evident in his furtive handling of the Libby commutation, is as important to understanding Mr. Bush's cratered presidency as incompetence, cronyism and hubris.
Even The Wall Street Journal's editorial page, a consistent Bush and Libby defender, had to take notice. Furious that the president had not given Mr. Libby a full pardon (at least not yet), The Journal called the Bush commutation statement a "profile in non-courage."
What it did not recognize, or chose not to recognize, is that this non-courage, to use The Journal's euphemism, has been this president's stock in trade, far exceeding the "wimp factor" that Newsweek once attributed to his father. The younger Mr. Bush's cowardice is arguably more responsible for the calamities of his leadership than anything else.
People don't change. Mr. Bush's failure to have the courage of his own convictions was apparent early in his history, when he professed support for the Vietnam War yet kept himself out of harm's way when he had the chance to serve in it. In the White House, he has often repeated the feckless pattern that he set back then and reaffirmed last week in his hide-and-seek bestowing of the Libby commutation.
The first fight he conspicuously ran away from as president was in August 2001. Aspiring to halt federal underwriting of embryonic stem-cell research, he didn't stand up and say so but instead unveiled a bogus "compromise" that promised continued federal research on 60 existing stem-cell lines. Only later would we learn that all but 11 of them did not exist. When Mr. Bush wanted to endorse a constitutional amendment to "protect" marriage, he again cowered. A planned 2006 Rose Garden announcement to a crowd of religious-right supporters was abruptly moved from the sunlight into a shadowy auditorium away from the White House.
Nowhere is this president's non-courage more evident than in the "signing statements" The Boston Globe exposed last year. As Charlie Savage reported, Mr. Bush "quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office." Rather than veto them in public view, he signed them, waited until after the press and lawmakers left the White House, and then filed statements in the Federal Register asserting that he would ignore laws he (not the courts) judged unconstitutional. This was the extralegal trick Mr. Bush used to bypass the ban on torture. It allowed him to make a coward's escape from the moral (and legal) responsibility of arguing for so radical a break with American practice.
In the end, it was also this president's profile in non-courage that greased the skids for the Iraq fiasco. If Mr. Bush had had the guts to put America on a true wartime footing by appealing to his fellow citizens for sacrifice, possibly even a draft if required, then he might have had at least a chance of amassing the resources needed to secure Iraq after we invaded it.
But he never backed up the rhetoric of war with the stand-up action needed to prosecute the war. Instead he relied on fomenting fear, as typified by the false uranium claims whose genesis has been covered up by Mr. Libby's obstructions of justice. Mr. Bush's cowardly abdication of the tough responsibilities of wartime leadership ratified Donald Rumsfeld's decision to go into Iraq with the army he had, ensuring our defeat.
Never underestimate the power of the unconscious. Not the least of the revelatory aspects of Mr. Bush's commutation is that he picked the fourth anniversary of "Bring 'em on" to hand it down. It was on July 2, 2003, that the president responded to the continued violence in Iraq, two months after "Mission Accomplished," by taunting those who want "to harm American troops." Mr. Bush assured the world that "we've got the force necessary to deal with the security situation." The "surge" notwithstanding, we still don't have the force necessary four years later, because the president never did summon the courage, even as disaster loomed, to back up his own convictions by going to the mat to secure that force.
No one can stop Mr. Bush from freeing a pathetic little fall guy like Scooter Libby. But only those who paid the ultimate price for the avoidable bungling of Iraq have the moral authority to pardon Mr. Bush.
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