|MEGATRENDS: Admin Briefing No.2|
19 comments10 Aug 2005 @ 20:24 by astrid : I either have
"No Comment" to this...-or I have ten pages of comments....At this moment I choose the first option. : )...except for: quite interesting and thoughtprovoking article, though extreamly difficult in all its CLINICALITY!!!..... just like the Western/Allopatic Medicine: nothing but CLINICAL!....
10 Aug 2005 @ 22:03 by vaxen : heh heh
yeah, but I know you got the 'gist' of it. after all...it was written in AD 37! and it is mui relevant even today. but, really, it is mostly for those who have ears to hear with anyway. so if you do you do and i think, in most respects, you do. not clinical at all, though, so in that respect, A-d, i must dis-agree with you.
But look: AD! heh heh heh
Always remember that not everybody who lives in Tri-Beca is a millionaire. Besides...a million doesn't go very far anymore so let imagination be your currency and you'll always (All ways) be rich!
11 Aug 2005 @ 03:36 by astrid : Heyyy, now, wait a minute!.... : )
AD 37!!!!???!?!?!? does that mean what it implies..... like four years after.... ahhh, naeh, let's not go there!.... and I thougt Elron lived HERE in the Twentieth Century.... I must be off... with a few years and continents, eh...hehhehehehhheee ; ) *L* ayayayayay....O
h sure, I can see some truths/fact-observations here & there ( in this AD37 article ) .... like when Newton "discovered" Gravity.... the falling apple, that had always fallen to the ground!... or when the NLP - guys made their observations about some connections/principles about our psyche and its learningprocesses etc... I do see those kind of facts here.... but then... ; the Heart-Thing and our own ability to choose our response to Life = our response-ability... which is proportional to our Heartfelt Acceptance of the Divinity in all; called 'relating'/Compassion .... how does that fit in??? Do I get it if I re-read this???... *!*
That's why I expect you to be a Divine Magician -or at least a double digit Billionaire!... : )
"I Can't Give You Anything , But Lo-o-o-ve, Baby,/ That's The Only Thing I'm Plenty Of , Baby-y-y" ... / Remember that one, eh? *o*
Think of me next time you hear it , promise? : )
You know, those two Bridges I ever frequent; The Bridge Across Forever and The Bridge Over Troubled Water are really the very best Bridges! One doesn't need any more than that, I don't think.....
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11 Aug 2005 @ 15:24 by jstarrs : N° 3
Must surely be about not having things to bridge, right?
Passed thru it one time but wouldn't buy unless I had the money to build a stupa...
11 Aug 2005 @ 19:55 by vaxen : Surreal Estate?
And just how on Teegeeack does Chandi-Garh fit in? Stupa? Stooping rather low there slack san. It's a Baddi in the Paddi and industrial means "In 'dust' for REAL!' Danke no...
A-d, the piece above is for those aquainted with the raison detre, ours, for being here on this holo globe at this time in hisssss story. Tory? I dare say. Old Rum-pole is kilting in his Vinegar as per usual and the Tory always gets the queen of the may...right?
"There is a New Civilization to put here, a new game with FUN, WINS, and ACCEPTANCE by all. Of course, it's so BASIC and TRUE to the nature of a being. And it will PERSIST as long as you CHOOSE to make it or play it. It will persist, that's your 3rd Right as a Thetan. Enjoy it."---cbr
"THE IMPLANTER'S ACTION IS:
TO SHRINK OR REDUCE YOUR AWARENESS AND CONTROL IT, AND MAKE YOU CONFORM TO WHAT THEY, AS STATUS AUTHORITIES, SAY YOU SHOULD BELIEVE OR DO."---those who know
11 Aug 2005 @ 20:19 by jstarrs : Must be weird talking to people...
..who don't have the script.
Is that what the power is?
11 Aug 2005 @ 23:10 by vaxen : hahahahaha!
oh, everyone has the script nd if you don't believe that just be inventive. the power? i think the key is to be found in 'ex-pan-sion.' Ex Pan Zion? oh, there are just a lot of very good points that i see happening in the world today that were being mentioned by bill way back in AD 37. from time to time i like to link this spot up to the greater query engine so that deep links become possible and an overall beyond the network shell is formed. like chandi-garh, for instance. do you know of chandra bosh, slack san? he never died, you know...have yiu heard of 'baba ji?' baddi may be better than goodie after all. now to find the currency of exchange and then...igloos in Hodu or as it is called there 'Baharat.' more of that british trading companies oppression of the language. ah but their opium was/is good, eh? chitralli gold! yeah man!
ever study java script?
11 Aug 2005 @ 23:36 by astrid : From WHAT bridge
did this Property guy land in your Blog, vax!?!?!? Any idea??? I thought it was almost spooky, since we had just talked so much...well...weird!!! ...to say the least! As for Babaji! no.....this must be some Twilight zone, right now?...!...? Those False Bridges you mention... could they be the cause or "at fault" I mean did we end up on one of them all of a sudden???
11 Aug 2005 @ 23:54 by ming : Bridge
Ha, that was funny that there was a guy dropping by to sell ... not quite a bridge, but a piece of land, at least.
Anyway, Vax, I hadn't read this one in a while. And when I do, I must say I disagree with Bill on a few things. But, well, it is tricky for anybody to try to state categorically what THE true way is, without tying oneself in a loop.
12 Aug 2005 @ 07:01 by vaxen : yes...
looping is a strange effect. 8 ?. may i ask what it is that you disagree with? (hopefully you'll be back to answer that!) heh heh
yes, that land could very well be a bridge, eh? good space for 'OT Projects' maybe? or an OT 'tiger team?' heh heh heh it is a rather interesting area and with the right impetus could grow into something wonderful. i must say that i'd be a lot happier in Baharat, in many respects, then here in the USA.
i think, though, that bills main import is that one must beware of false bridges cause they get you absolutely no where (treadmill effect). look at Virginia McClaughry, as an example (I know there were many others as well)... 9 years on OT7! now that's a built in 'loop' invented by the TOC.
thanks for your comment ming. good to see you.
12 Aug 2005 @ 13:06 by ming : Bridges
Well, you know, the other-determined, self-determined, pan-determined sequence. To translate for everybody else, "other-determined" means that one is the effect, rather than the cause, that other people are doing one in, essentially. Taking one's queues from others, rather than from one's own decisions. "Self-determined" is that one has gotten up to the point of making one's own decisions, that one takes responsibility for one's own situation, acting by one's own instincts. And "pan-determined" is when one can go beyond one's own ego and make appropriate decisions involving more people and more factors. Not exactly altruistic, but more that one can choose what is best not only for oneself, but for everybody. And that's sort of a scale. It is better to be pan-determined than to be self-determined, and that is better than being other-determined. In a journey of personal evolution, one is likely to progress through those stages. First blaming everybody else for one's condition, then taking responsibility for it, then going beyond the ego to more self-less wisdom.
But I think it is a mistake to assume that one would have to deal with people as other-determined until some advanced level where they suddenly get over it. And that's one of the problems with the way a scientology bridge usually is done. One spends years working on all the ways other people have done you in. One thoroughly buys into the idea that one's condition is the result of lots of bad things that have happened to you, and clever and evil things others have done to you. And, sure, you then work hard on clearing away those unwanted effects, but you also agree rather solidly to being the effect of them, and being without much responsibility for it. Which produces a lot of scientologists who're waiting around for being told what their next level is, and expecting it to be another, even more clever thing, that somebody has done to them.
Hubbard actually touched upon it in what he called "limited processes". Like, if you only concentrate on bad stuff that happened to you, and you do that for too long, you'll end up agreeing more with it, and making it more solid. And if, on the other hand, you ignore all the reasons why not, and you only concentrate on nice positive stuff, like saying affirmations, that would end up getting stuck too. A more balanced path would be to both work on strengthening what you want in life, and also to handle things that are stopping you.
As far as I'm concerned, a "false bridge" would be one that hides from you that you're responsible, that you're cause, that you're creating your own reality. Right now, and all the time, without pause. Whatever's "wrong" with you is something you're doing. Maybe with the help of other folks who can play the bad guys, but you're the one with the script. A false bridge is when somebody persuades you that they know better than you, and you should give up your own instincts and follow them instead, and they'll tell you what your next level is. A false bridge is when somebody convinces you that you are effect because of something that happened a long time ago and that only they have a path that will make you cause again, because they know exactly what happened, but you'll have to do exactly what they say.
I find it more productive to help people realize, as soon as possible, that they're at the center of their own lives, and that they can change anything that isn't working for them. They're always creating it. Might be some work to remember that, to own up to it, and to practice it, but it doesn't change the basic truth.
And, if we should translate it back into scientologese, it is Hubbard's Axiom 1 and 2. Axiom 1 saying essentially that there's nothing at all wrong with you. You're not REALLY affected by anything that happens in time and space, the real you is beyond all of that, eternally unaffected. Axiom 2 saying that you have the power to make considerations, i.e. make your own truth, creating your own reality. And the rest is basically just variations on that theme. You can consider yourself being stuck, and then, indeed, you are. And, to make it more complicated, you can consider yourself being stuck because of ____. But it is just something you're making up. You can change your mind any time. That's the secret that shouldn't be hidden. It shouldn't be stuffed down people's throats either. It isn't necessarily easy. One might have to discover what it is one currently is creating before one feels ready to change one's mind and create something else. And that might take some work.
12 Aug 2005 @ 19:35 by vaxen : Bravo:
Yes, I concur with your estimation of the situation 100%. Getting people, including ones' ``true'' self, to realise (getting them 'back' to) Native State. The Super Static Operative 'state' or 'condition' of being.
Thank you so much, ming, for your enlightened commentary. Right on! I think I'll put the Axioms up next. Then people can see for themselves from whence the rest, or bulk, of the matter known as 'Knowing how to know' proceeds. Revenimus! ;)
Now back to Implanter Org Basics as the eXperience Entity of the Not is'ed Universe is coming over today for tea and I simply must be pre-pared for the diatribes of madness. ;)
12 Aug 2005 @ 20:08 by astrid : a BIG A+
for you, Ming!... a HUGE A +!!! THANKS! : )
12 Aug 2005 @ 22:56 by scotty : Oh boy !
I actually understood all wot Ming said !!
15 Aug 2005 @ 20:27 by ming : Scientologese
Heheh, I hate bad communication. You know when people use specialized lingo or references that aren't understood, and I can see that the meaning just doesn't make it to the intended recipients. It really gives me, like, a rash. So I enjoy translating beween different systems or different vocabularies. Like, scientologists tend to speak this inside language that has a whole dictionary of its own. Which, some of it, makes it possible to talk about some things that there otherwise weren't words for. But the majority of it is kind of unnecessary. Using normal words in a strange meaning, and making new words for things one could have said in normal language. That was part of what made Scientology rather cultish. It is a way of distinguishing clearly between who's in or out. Somewhat of a control mechanism. But it is fairly unnecessary otherwise. And it makes it hard for scientologists to talk to normal people, because they say things that don't quite make sense.
16 Aug 2005 @ 19:52 by ming : Language
Yeah, the nice thing about language is that it allows us to talk about things which we maybe otherwise couldn't talk about. So, yes, specialized vocabulary is often necessary.
But also it is important to be aware of what for example is embedded in Korzybski's wisdom. The map is not the territory. Consciousness of abstraction. Things go astray when one forgets that the abstractions one is using are abstractions, and one starts to believe they're the real thing, the territory, rather than just a map. Maps are very useful, but when we forget they're merely maps we might get lost, when suddenly the territory doesn't match the map.
18 Aug 2005 @ 03:19 by vaxen : Oh yes...
Comment: ...for sure. As a graduate of the GMC you must have had inklings that Scientology, per se, was really set up as a GAME. I wish that that were understood. Role Playing is such a wonderful way to get from A to B. Of course multiverse is not linear nor is time reality and the Map is not the territory...
Even a very cursory examination of the Games System developed by the earlier Scientologists should alert one to the fact that aberration took over at an early stage. The MAP became the territory and everyone got lost...
Creativity is the ability to move from static dormant stage to fully dynamic movement stage and theroetically back again to potent/potential static.
Heuristic Ideation Techniques were employed. Korzybski was no all in all; for R and the earlier pioneers borrowing freely from many 'Game' systems. Imagination is greater than knowledge; recognizing the power of mental modes; challenging and transforming the current Mental Model...all part and parcel of the GUM. But; "The minute an idea for a project is conceived, its already too late to think of it from scratch."--Christopher Alexander
"Teach people to think not what to think" was always R's goal nor was he, nor is he, alone in that. Object Oriented Programming where the HU-MANAS becomes the object and the auditor, the orienteering programmer (creative processing), was and is a good idea.
The techniques (the 'tech.') should always be evolving. A constant returning to source to refresh oneself, to begin again ... renewed in the essence of the quantum void. The power of impossible thinking. "Only say things that can be heard."
Dimensional Analysis - comes from database theory where one wishes to find the most efficient 'set of tables' to contain a 'set of information.' Thus a 'Pattern Language' becomes key in labelling the idea flow.
Patterns are a way to analyze solutions to recurring problems, make them reusable, and communicate them ... patterns are a way of thinking. Patterns are also a cult. R was very keen on this...
Scientology is a role playing game; not a religion. Games that get 'serious' are no fun. If it isn't fun it isn't Scientology. Now we can break the crayons and draw outside the lines. No fear of RPF, or the SP declare, comm ev's, etc., ... or all the many 'Ethics' conditions which have nothing to do with anything but an aberrated movement.
Mind Maps, Brainstorms, Object Diagrams Data Base Layouts, User Interface sketches...programming. All very Sciento-logical. The early patterns evolved out of computer science. Now with the applications of Game Theory to the 'work place,' to the 'Org Space' we can understand even deeper where R, et al, were coming from...Urine powered CSS (Classic Star Ship).
life hacks, note taking, heuristics, productivity pr0n...SDI (Smart Disorganized Individuals)...Free Mind Installers...TheNextRevolution?...the stable datum.
All in all I love R's work and CBR's, and yours, and everybody elses, too, who has meant a damn ... to me ... in this life hack. High Capacity Holographic storage is coming soon, they say, but in reality we are it. So we'll viral market the paradigm which is no paradigm and alter is the alter isness. A new eX Calibur awaits the ancient newness' arrival.
The 'Air Snort' will get us home...as Knights of the Lambda Calculus we think Bule and count 01. Tachibana Labs ubiquitous implants...powered by NAVI, co-opted by open-topian wage warriors ... Google Grid X 9. Protocol 7. Digital Restrictions Management.
"...think blue, count two..."
The LUSTR (Level of Universal Structure) objectifying itself via the eyes of its beholder creator il-LUSTR-ating for all the Kosmik Q; "Watch, but do not govern; stop war, but do not wage it; protect, but do not control; and first, survive!"--Drunkboat, Cordwainer Smith (Dr Myron Anthony Linburger)
Infotastic data smog...quantum teleporting computer gates.
I O Torus || The Neural Net || Rhind Papyrus
Addenda: One does not go 'UP' a bridge; one goes 'across' a bridge; in some bizzare cases one jumps off a bridge; or even paints/ maintains a bridge; but pne just does NOT go UP a bridge.
I love the Nordik Rune called ISA. The Biefrost bridge. SO from whence did our intrepid explorers of 'terra incognita' get this analog? Yeah, baby...
Hierachicalism is a trap. But, then, we know that -- don't we? ;)
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