|Out of My Mind: The New Civilization #1|
13 comments24 Aug 2006 @ 01:11 by bushman : Hmm
The religion thing, I could see small shrines for reverance of each religion, but I cant see a bunch of churches or temples to all religions. I mean if our community lacks fellowship, then we don't have a decent enough town hall. Anyway if we are going high tech, then individuals could practic a religion on the net churchs, and for fellowship they participate in whatever events at the town hall. Social democratic anarchy? That could work. :}
24 Aug 2006 @ 22:30 by b : No churches, mosques, temples in this
new civilization community, Bushman. Religions all have something wrong about them even if its just their dogma and doctrine. I admit that certain rituals from some religions do bring about a spriitual conciousness and that is good. Rituals like meditational skills can help to calm and to heal. But in a new high tech oriented survival community: proofs, fact and evidence should be the guideline to wisdom. Religion should be able to prove what they claim.
Each self is a self who can choose to live and be with other selves.
Religion of humans creating a new civilization model community should start from the fact that Humans are a composite of body, mind, spirit. And prove that up. That there is only one God that is the creator of the universe, the one source of all life. And prove that up.
Religious humanism without dogma or doctrine is static then there is all of those cosmologies. That's chaos! Who has the right one?
24 Aug 2006 @ 22:37 by enora : Bee
this is a great example of a new civ, even if it is a game. It is one of the most popular games, too, and for good reason it's the most widely distributed game series of all time. They use the barter system, it's spiritual and not religious, it's about cooperative work as well as independent paths. It's brilliant. Final Fantasy.
24 Aug 2006 @ 22:44 by b : Ok Nora, thanks
I will check it out. The real thing is on a much broader scale.
25 Aug 2006 @ 00:24 by enora : Ha!
is there much of a difference? Millions of people around the world are playing online together as teams around the clock. They trade, share, help one another. If that's not a great model for a new civ, I don't know what is. They're doing it on one level, and who's to say it can't be transferred to the rest of the world?
25 Aug 2006 @ 02:39 by bushman : Game is game.
Real hardscape, of a new civ community is far beyond, just a game. We are talking real pavment, real solid tech, a real town where people will want to move and be productive, in those things we stand for. It just can't be compaired with a game in my book. Im not saying the game isnt good training , and as well do think it does set the mind in motion to do the right things in a new civ community.
25 Aug 2006 @ 20:01 by b : the purpose here
is: as a community create a real model community of a new civilization. A civilization model of a new and better civilization then the civlization we are existing in as humans on Earth now. That would be as a community that wanted to survive to a higher purpose:
Living a life of purpose. For this first model community from NCN it
must possess willing people. Perhaps of one catagory.
29 Aug 2006 @ 21:50 by vaxen : Focus:
1) Being, 2) Mind, 3) Body, 4) Product.
1) Group President
2) Communications Executive
3) Organization Executive
4) Public Executive
Reason involves a premise and a process of logic.
A premise is a starting point from whence subsequent steps of logic are taken...
An axiom is a special kind of premise - the sort that cannot be denied.
"A premise is an axiom if, in order to deny it explicitly, it is necessary to assume it implicitly."--- A.R.
The money issuing power.
The Private Sector.
Do a bunk.
Transnational (trans-state) Law.
Death before Dishonor.
Inflation, the dillution of currency, is a form of non legislated tax.
Offshore doesn't necessarly mean ''Off Shore.''
Money is freedom? Politics is a fools freedom...
I'd suggest that you check out the ''Green River Formation," Bee, since drilling has already begun...
The Piceance basin has the highest concentration of oil shale.
Strategic Business plan?
29 Aug 2006 @ 23:20 by b : The hell with the oil
go straight to the hydrogen membrane. Seperate from water oxygen and hydrogen. Contain them seperately, use the oxygen, transform the hydrogen to heated gas and transform into electricity. Put it all in a box and plug your house electricity in it. Carry the small box with you and plug your car into it and drive away. Develop it for one community at a time until a reasonable public understands the powers can't touch it. You write the business plan.
30 Aug 2006 @ 06:43 by vaxen : Yeah...
but till then there is enough oil in the Green River Formation to sustain us for another 500 years. The profit potential is tremendous... world shaking power, too...
Scalar energies are being harnessed (cf., T.Beardens' work etc.,) but we are entering the period of time known as "The Energy Wars." So... knowing what energy is is tantamount. Energy from the vacuum...
30 Aug 2006 @ 21:03 by b : New and Other energy sources
are available but can only be accessed by small groups. THey are not allowed to be developed by powers who prevent the public(you&me)from using them. A start up newciv community that develops new energy sources should be able to utilize them. One new one I have been looking at are the new magnetic field discoveries.
31 Aug 2006 @ 00:13 by vaxen : Well...
transnational law (trans-state) is a viable reality and the New Lex Mercatoria gives us plausible remedy beyond the UNITED STATES Corporation whose fraudulent behavior against ''We the People" is well known. The remedy exists in Commerce. The UCC, here in the states... is the law of the land.
We know how to deal with the devils in their courts. So they can threaten all they want to... their time is rapidly coming to an end.
Once you know who you are their 'foibles' really mean very little. We can coerce them in ways they've not yet dreamed of...
You see... they are Lienable! You'd be surprised at what tools and shields are available against Fraudulent Government. The thing on Capitol hill loves to huff and puff and blow down houses but once you know yourself as creditor then the story changes. Goes for local Governments too...
In any case the oil shale deposits that we have here in the united states of America will revolutionize 'oil.' The new Middle East is the U.S. Yes, new and viable forms of energy... new? Suppressed. Times they are a changing, though, thanks to us... ;)
Good luck bee san.
PS: Can you tell me who did the picture you used above? I love it.
31 Aug 2006 @ 20:24 by b : re pic:
Ingo Swann, he's still around. Pic comes from his book site.
More oil is constantly being discovered. The planet has oil all over it. There are many different sources of inexpensive energy. The best ways to use these sources is do just that: build what is needed to utilize them and use it. don't bother to go through a patent process. Many changes for the better will occur.
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