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picture22 Jan 2004 @ 18:40, by Bruce Kodish

Churchill taught his pet parrot Charlie how to swear.

And Charlie, still alive, is carrying on the great man's inspiring words.

Reading this did my heart good.

The Mirror story.

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22 Jan 2004 @ 18:46 by vibrani : hahahhaha YES
:-) And what a beautiful bird he is, too.  

22 Jan 2004 @ 19:45 by ming : Polly wants a cigar!
Yeah, its a fun story. Was just reading it today. Probably not quite true according to more authoritative sources than the Mirror: {http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/topstories/story/0,4386,231230,00.html} {http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3414323.stm}, but what the hell.  

23 Jan 2004 @ 10:33 by Bruce @ : Proof Pending Per Polly 's Profanity
Thanks for the links, Ming.  

23 Jan 2004 @ 14:47 by Elan Zokary Neev, PhD, DD @ : Let the birds do the fightin'
As they say, "It's all for the birds". Everyone needs a faithful ageless parrot to work as a proxy to express anger & profanity, so we feel released & more peaceful & perhaps make peace with each other & live happily ever after & let the birds do the cussing & fighting & shitting...The problem is that some of us parrot the parrots & bring the world to a brink of destruction. But let us stay with the first thought & image of inner & world peace & leave the cussing to the birds...Amen Selah  

24 Jan 2004 @ 00:50 by vaxen : ~V~
"Another hideous mask was revealed during his May tour of Poland to further promote his “war on terror”. Former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus, has well documented the scandalous history of the Bush family’s support for Adolph Hitler. In 1942 The New York Tribune described Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, as “Hitler’s Angel” and, under the ‘Trading with the Enemy Act’, the US Congress seized the holdings of several companies directed by Prescott Bush that, as fronts for the Nazi party, had channelled hundreds of millions of dollars to the Third Reich and IG Farben. It was IG Farben that built the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz and forty other extermination camps. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and U.S. government archives, Prescott Bush also made considerable profit from Auschwitz slave labour. President G.W. Bush has inherited his grandfather’s obscene Holocaust profits, which are held in a trust for his benefit, yet he still has the brazen audacity to shed a tear for the cameras while visiting the remains of the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau."

Polly want a cracker?


24 Jan 2004 @ 11:51 by bkodish : Vaxen's Post
I'm neither an unqualified Bush-hater (nor an unqualified Bush-lover) but I didn't post the story about the parrot to provide a pretext for Bush-bashing.
Given the plausibility of Loftus's views, which I respect, I also accept that
George W. Bush is not George H.W. Bush is not Prescott Bush.
Vaxen in not in any position to know what George Bush was feeling while visiting the remains of the camps. I accept Bush's tears as sincere. Vaxen's opinion is his own, not mine.  

24 Jan 2004 @ 14:07 by vibrani : Vax from ~V~
Thanks, Vax, I am familiar with the writings on the skull and crossbones society and the presumed Nazi connections from Bush, Sr. I don't think Dubya is the same. I prefer to concentrate on the present time and leadership, anyway.  

25 Jan 2004 @ 00:31 by vaxen : You...
do not at all know what kind of a position i am in mr kodish. Be that as it may you also missed the point of the above anecdotal rendering. Par for the course. Like father, a bonesman, like son...also like grandpapa too who, incidentally, was also a member of the 'brotherhood of death!' Coincidence? As for 'present' leadership why not check out how many 'bonesmen' are on 'Bush's' cabinet or in his administration. Not that that would surprise you at all. Ah, yes, another amusing little anecdote: Kerry is also a 'Bonesman!' Not that that would mean a thing to you who very obviously do'nt think it means a thing that these ties go way back into the depths of the 'Eastern Establishment' who have brought us endless conflict for their own profit! Supporting both Communism and the Reich and making away like bandits, or should I say 'pirates?' Skull and Bones were worn by the 'Deaths Head Order' as well. Oh but there is no link whatsoever! Hey, wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn? It's cheap...  

25 Jan 2004 @ 01:12 by vibrani : But, Vax
how does this relate to Churchill's parrot telling Hitler and the Nazis off? I think that's the point in this log section. How about writing a piece yourself on these connections and putting up your own log about it, Vax? I think some folks here would like to read something well thought-out and compiled with that data, and Dubya's role in all this.  

25 Jan 2004 @ 03:29 by vaxen : Well...
that's a good idea, ~V~, and I am thinking along those lines. We'll see. In the meanwhile:

"...These honorable stances cut no ice with Churchill (or Roosevelt, in the end). Of course, the pendulously jowled prime minister was a mass-destruction fan from way back. In 1919, Churchill called for airborne chemical assaults on "uncooperative Arabs" (actually Kurds and Afghans, but your great men need not make such petty distinctions). "I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas," he declared. "I am strongly in favor of using poison gas against uncivilized tribes." Some years later, a certain A. Hitler would apply this gaseous philosophy to another troublesome "tribe."

The two Teutonically-derived statesmen also shared a loathing for the lesser breeds. As Churchill put it with customary eloquence in 1937: "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race, has come in and taken their place." Hear! Hear! cried Hitler, as he sent his "higher-grade" hordes swarming eastward into the vast Slavic manger.

Churchill's understandable thirst for revenge against the Nazis who had bombed English cities took a curious turn, however. The mass British counter-raids aimed at "breaking the enemy's morale" were targeted almost exclusively against the "lower orders," who died by the hundreds of thousands in the "area bombing" that neither broke civilian morale nor substantially hampered German war production (although it did waste the lives of thousands of allied airmen). Yet the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders (the very men who had ordered the blitz on English cities) and major Nazi industrialists (who, along with their American partners like Prescott Bush, had built Hitler's war machine) were specifically excluded from the attacks. What stirring chivalry among the warrior elite!

Today, Churchill's bust adorns the office of George W. Bush -- a gift from his loyal tributary, Tony Blair. Churchill is their lodestar, their magic totem, the mythic foundation of their "moral authority" as war leaders. But as history shows, there is no "moral authority" in war, even in a "good war": There is only "indiscriminate homicide and destruction," the unleashing of the beast within all of us -- even the "great ones," made drunk with power and terror."  

26 Jan 2004 @ 13:00 by jmarc : this just in
:V {link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3430481.stm|this just in}  

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