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6 comments11 Apr 2009 @ 23:38 by mortimer : Champagne comes from Champagne
Or its not authentic Champagne. The fat takers preserve the Champagne but rape and pillage almost everything else they touch, usurp and exploit and render impotent. The Native American Flute comes from an American Indian or its merely Native American 'Style' Flute. Then the Djembe comes from Africa or its not Djembe, instead its an African Style Djembe. There is a major company name Latin Percussion that sells what they call a Bata drum, anybody in the Ifa tradition with a lick of sense understands its not a Bata drum. Therefore...Latin Percussion, the world's leading manufacturer of percussion instruments is committing misappropriation in their advertisement, which is a felony?... I'm not a lawyer so i dunno.
What makes a tradition a 'tradition'?
If party of 16 repeatedly escape the universe, then i would call that tradition.
13 Apr 2009 @ 18:19 by a-d : I guess that is....
Yin & Yang swimming in the Muddy Waters in the Ocean of Life... polluted here on Planet Earth by all those (yes...including maself...I 've muddied those Waters too, maself... Now I'm working on Clearing them : ) )) you describe here in your little essay... Well spoken!...
What???.... a mindless repetition of even more mindless "rituals" used in even more mindless Ceremonies-to-The-Remembrance-of- This-& -That("Original" "SUCCESSFUL" Event... successful,coz... SOMEONE's Hidden Agendas were taken seriously (by all The Gullibles with awe & reverense...)without them ever seeing through the Smokescreen of those Lofty Rituals.... eh?
13 Apr 2009 @ 22:05 by mortimer : mindless rituals?
you mean like getting out of bed and or brushing you teeth?
14 Apr 2009 @ 00:08 by a-d : Absolutely! : )
...mindless thing we do coz we're taught to do so... Becomes a Ritual ="Home-y Tradition"!.... Whom does it benefit? Really. You think the Pygmes in Kalahari Desert, who don't have Crest and toothbrushing Ceremonies every Morning/Evening... HOW MANY Root fillings do they have by the time they are twenty five -or so? See whadimean? ;) "Hidden Agendas"... Successfull "results" for whom?... We could make the List-of-Examples endlessly LONG!....
Sooo...destruction...Life falling apart...Is it Nature --or is it indeed "NURTURE" ?????!?!?!?!?.... ^!^
14 Apr 2009 @ 13:56 by Jeffrey Trenton Crace @126.96.36.199 : Rituals and Traditions
Max wrote of traditions: "...most of them have forgotten what the very words once meant that they're echoing..." Since traditions regularly denote ritual, and because of the preceding comments on rituals, I felt compelled to do a little exploration.
It seems the root of ritual means "to flow," as in rivulet. And the Indo-European root for the word (*ar) means "to fit together." For those of apt mind, I probably needn't explain anymore at this point. In any case, it becomes clear that a rite-ual in its pure etymological sense would seem to actually PROMOTE and CULTIVATE re-ligion (in IT'S purely etymological meaning). Sadly, it's not surprising at all that 99.9% of rituals now seem to do the opposite. But score one for consistency as the connotation and reality of ritual today "fits together" quite nicely with the connotation and reality of religion today.
10 Oct 2009 @ 08:57 by mortimer : New Age Sweat Lodge
2 die, 19 overcome at Arizona retreat sweat lodge
what my friend Lookinghawk had to say about it...
"The new agers have never done a respectful job of representing our ancestors or their life ways.. They continuously take or outright steal the ceremonies and parts of the beliefs or practices that they choose without permission, and with very little knowledge of them, immediately claim ownership to them. They bastardize them and re-package them for sell to the public either for money and/or credibility."~Lookinghawk
Sheriff's homicide investigators were working to determine what happened and whether any criminal actions might have been a factor in the incident,D'Evelyn said. Investigators were at the resort Friday interviewing the retreat director, staff and guests, including some who told detectives they paid up to $9,000 for the multi-day program.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/slideshow/ALeqM5j4PHcSvMF8pPe_CpIRZejl7OD1vgD9B7PM5O0?index=0 This undated photoprovided by the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office shows a "sweatbox"structure at Angel Valley resort in Sedona, Ariz. Two people died and an estimated 19 others were taken to hospitals Thursday Oct. 8, 2009,after being overcome while sitting in the sauna-like sweat lodge,authorities said. (AP Photo/Yavapai County Sheriff's
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